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Sgt_Flash
04-20-2013, 06:24 PM
That was a tough stretch. Between the events in Boston and West, Texas, blogging about plastic military men didn't seem too terribly relevant. Now that things are returning to normal and we've all taken our leave from CNN for a while, we can get back to some Joe Talk.

Anyway, if anyone ever wants to get a hold of me concerning Joe Talk but doesn't want to do it publicly, please feel free to contact me via private message or Twitter (@mikeirizarry1). I'm always looking for post ideas and would rather stick to topics that you'd like to read about.

For my third entry, I thought I'd touch on the GI Joe Collectors Club's selections for the second Figure Subscription Service (FSS). For those of you who've been out of the loop, the characters that'll be included in that service were revealed at the 2013 Joecon a few weeks ago. Despite a generally warm reception, there's been some backlash in some forums that I don't entirely understand.

Every single FSS selection can't be groundbreaking. There are budgets to be kept and price-points to get under; for every figure like Big Boa, which is mostly new tooling, there have to be one that's mostly reused parts, like Tan Grunt, that'll be mostly re-used parts. For the record, I think the Club did a great job of character selection as well as keeping its mostly-repaint characters relevant and/or interesting in the first FSS. I was on the fence about Sure Fire and Nano-BAT, but they were pretty solid figures once I got them in hand. TNT remains a bit of a head-scratcher to this day, but I can at least appreciate that he's a faithfully-reproduced foreign exclusive, if a ... yes, a hideous one.

Keeping with my tradition of making lists, here's a quick rundown of my first impressions. These are, of course, subject to change, considering images haven't even been released for most of them.


Skullbuster - if you stopped and thought about it, Skullbuster was a bit of a no-brainer; he's so easy to do conceptually that you knew he'd be covered at some point. The question he raises for me is, why so some Viper sects have specific commanders (like Skully here for the Range Vipers and Letal for the Frag-Vipers), while others don't? Or is this another avenue for the Club to possibly toss out some new characters using old tooling?
Dragonsky - the Oktober Guard flamethrower was revealed at the 2012 Convention as a teaser and I remain totally on-board here. I wanted Oktober Guard figures for my entire childhood. I snapped up the comic pack ones, was lucky enough to go to the 2012 Convention to get that set and am psyched up for this figure.
Lt. Falcon (Night Force) - Supposedly this figure will be a different construction than both the 25th Anniversary and Marauders versions of Falcon. I really like Falcon, and am looking forward to complementing my 2013 Con Set with this one.
Big Bear - more Oktober Guard? Yes, please!
Admiral Keel-Haul - you should've heard the cheer from the old-schooler ARAH fans when Keel-Haul was announced. I collected Joes from 1982 until 1987 or so as a kid, so anytime a character from that era shows up, I'm pretty happy. I hope that they stay away from those 25th Anniversary General Hawk arms for him, though.
Ar Puro (Tiger Force Airtight) - I'll be honest, this wasn't a terribly exciting announcement. In fairness, the 30th Anniversary Airtight was a pretty incredible figure, so even if it's just a straight-up Tiger Force-themed repaint, it'll still be pretty cool.
Marujo (Tiger Force Shipwreck) - I'm hoping that the Club is leading us towards a Tiger Force-themed set for next year's Convention. I can't say I'd buy either Airtight or Shipwreck on their own, but they'd work okay as companion pieces for a collector's set. Oh, well. I said it myself earlier... pennies have to get pinched somewhere, and they can't all be as useful as Tan Grunt.
Bombardier - as a geek for Action Force, a fan of Flash, and a friend of Dave Tree (who discovered the identity of this unproduced Action Force figure a few years back), Bombardier is one of the main reasons I'll be cobbling together my pennies for FSS2. No lie. As I said on this week's WOJM recording, the Club needs to make this perfect by giving him the file name "David Tree." Write them a letter and tell them you agree, please. Be nice.
Cesspool - I'm not a big fan of the character, but Cesspool is clearly this edition's Big Boa; he'll receive a lot of attention as far as new parts and new casting goes. I'm interested to see how Cesspool turns out - cautiously optimistic, even, considering that the Club has a pretty good track record with product. Right now, though... eh.
Desert Scorpion - I was at the Convention panel where this list was revealed (I swear), but I have no idea what version of this character this figure is going to be based on. Somebody else who was there, help me out a little here. Regardless, Desert Scorpion isn't driving me towards this set.
Tollbooth - I'm in that minority of proud Tollbooth fans, to the point that he may be my favorite 2013 announcement behind Bombardier. It'll also be nice to have a "regular" version (WOJM RUNNING GAG ALERT!) after getting the Tiger Force one as the 13th entry for FSS1. (No, not really.) I'm 100% on aboard with a Tollbooth figure.
Widescope - I hope that like Sure Fire, the Club adds a little something to this "meh" character that makes him fun and interesting. Besides Lamont the dog, anyway. How messed up is it that I'm more excited for the animal companion than I am the human character here?


I've rattled on long enough for one post. What say you, John Q. Public?

pluv
04-20-2013, 07:49 PM
I know Brian was joking about including a battleship game piece of the aircraft carrier with Keel Haul but I actually really like that idea. Overall, I'm more psyched for this run then the last one.

PJDonnell
04-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Desert Scorpion - I was at the Convention panel where this list was revealed (I swear), but I have no idea what version of this character this figure is going to be based on. Somebody else who was there, help me out a little here. Regardless, Desert Scorpion isn't driving me towards this set.

I'm guessing it'll be based on the canceled Desert Scorpion from the wave 2 Mechs for the Pursuit of Cobra line.

nickvree
04-20-2013, 10:20 PM
At the announcement, I didn't realize that Bombardier was an unproduced AF figure, and the one that Dave Tree discovered and figured out the mystery on. That is super cool now that you say it though, and would be awesome if it was named David Tree!

Sgt_Flash
04-20-2013, 11:41 PM
I know Brian was joking about including a battleship game piece of the aircraft carrier with Keel Haul but I actually really like that idea. Overall, I'm more psyched for this run then the last one.

I think this run may have higher highs but also possible lower lows, if that makes any sense. It's all splitting hairs, really, since I was on board for 10 or 11 out of 12 for FSS1 and "only" 9 or 10 out of 12 for FSS2. Neither one is a real high-risk buy.


I'm guessing it'll be based on the canceled Desert Scorpion from the wave 2 Mechs for the Pursuit of Cobra line.

That's what I think, too... I just remember them going into more detail about it and I can't find anyplace that will confirm it.

troynos
04-23-2013, 02:44 PM
I'm extremely excited for Tollbooth and Bombardier.

I've wanted the Club to do a Bombardier ever since the FSS was announced.

I think we are getting Tiger Force next year. The FSS and Con sets seem to line up with the FSS helping fill out the Con Sets: Oktober Guard, Night Force. So Tiger Force is a logical guess.

The_commander
04-24-2013, 11:12 AM
FSS 2.0 will be a bigger hit than FSS 1.0 is my prediction. Great figures all around from various parts of the GI Joe mythos.

tmc008
04-24-2013, 04:21 PM
I will be subscribing to fss2.0, there are enough characters I actually want in this release.

The_commander
04-24-2013, 04:53 PM
I'm REALLY excited about this line-up. Really, really excited.

troynos
04-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Order of Desire (from GIVEMENOW!! to Probably Sell):
(subject to change once see them)

1. Bombardier
2. Tollbooth
3. NF Falcon
4. Dragonsky
5. Big Bear
6. Wide Scope
7. Skullbuster
8. Keel-Haul
9. Ar Puro
10. Desert Scorpion
11. Marujo
12. Cesspool

(right now, Cesspool is probably the only one really thinking of selling)

The_commander
04-24-2013, 05:15 PM
Wow, really? Sell Cesspool?

I LOVE how this is though! The club really seems to be hitting it on the mark. Because, to me, here's my order:

1. Cesspool
2. Bombardier
3. NF Falcon
4. Wide Scope (if he's basically Shockwave)
5. Keel-Haul
6. Skull-Buster
7. Desert Scorpion
8. Dragonsky
9. Ar Puro
10. Marujo
11. Big Bear
12. Tollbooth

As one can clearly see, a very different look. Again, the Club is doing a good job at picking figures from different eras and mythos

troynos
04-24-2013, 11:31 PM
I've never liked Cesspool, Big Boa, Crystal Ball or Raptor.

Sgt_Flash
04-24-2013, 11:49 PM
I've never liked Cesspool, Big Boa, Crystal Ball or Raptor.

My brother used to say that about Big Boa, too... until he saw the FSS Big Boa.

To be clear, I'm not in the camp of big-time Cesspool fans (like I am with Tollbooth ;) ), but I'm excited to see what the Club does with him.

troynos
04-25-2013, 08:09 AM
I sold the FSS Big Boa....


Cesspool could end up being a figure I like, have to wait and see. Can't wait for the unveiling.

The_commander
04-25-2013, 09:37 AM
When do you think the unveiling will be, since they didn't have pics for all of them out at JoeCon?

Also, I cannot recall for sure be did we see anything (pics or mock-ups) of FSS 1.0 before orders went online?

troynos
04-25-2013, 09:40 AM
Also, I cannot recall for sure be did we see anything (pics or mock-ups) of FSS 1.0 before orders went online?

We saw pics for all of them before orders went online. They ended up having to fill the time between the last reveal (when orders were supposed to start) and the actual start of ordering with random pics of packaged, the new boxes, etc..

I'd expect the first reveals next month and possible orders in August and first shipped in December.

The_commander
04-25-2013, 09:55 AM
I don't particularly like the idea of purchasing something sight-unseen but if it turns out that way I'm still in for at least two subs.

troynos
04-25-2013, 10:06 AM
I think sales would really be hurt if forced to order sight unseen.


I really want Tollbooth and hope he's at Footloose-level and not Iceberg-level. I'd be worried if couldn't see what looks like before ordering.

tmc008
04-25-2013, 10:48 AM
Orders were suppose to start now. I'm guessing they are on the same track as last year? Say x month but end up being 8 months later.

nickvree
04-26-2013, 02:25 PM
We saw pics for all of them before orders went online. They ended up having to fill the time between the last reveal (when orders were supposed to start) and the actual start of ordering with random pics of packaged, the new boxes, etc..

I'd expect the first reveals next month and possible orders in August and first shipped in December.


At con they said orders were supposed to be at the end of April... don't think that's happening. I agree with tmc008 in that it will probably be several months before we see the orders go up, although I hope not.

Manic
04-29-2013, 07:43 PM
I pretty much agree on your feedback of all these guys. I think the figures themselves will be pretty cool for Cesspool and Skullbuster, but they don't really fall in line with my favorite themes of the hobby. I much more favor the military based figures over anything else. There can never be enough Zaps and Flashes in my book!