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General_Hawk
04-17-2014, 11:55 AM
Anyone who follows the Transformers Collectors Club has heard about the "Shattered Glass" phenomenon by now. Essentially it's a "mirror universe" situation where the good guys are bad guys and vice versa. Based loosely off of the "Mirror, Mirror" episode of Star Trek, it is a very interesting storyline idea, and seems to have worked somewhat effectively for Transformers.

The question is, does it work the same way (or could it work the same way) for G.I. Joe?

Brian Savage posed that very question during the Collectors Club round table at the 2014 G.I. Joe Convention, and to my great surprise, the majority of people in attendance raised their hands in favor of a Shattered Glass element to the G.I. Joe Collectors Club toy offerings. So where is this coming from? For folks who haven't been reading the G.I. Joe Collectors Club newsletter, in the very fun Adventure Team comic by Todd Pisani and Rod Whigham (yes, that Rod Whigham) has shown the Adventurers passing through the Bermuda triangle, and into a parallel universe where Cobra is the leading governmental entity, and has recruited some G.I. Joe operatives to serve under them (most notably Flint, Lady Jaye, and Wild Bill). So the question comes up, does this formula work for the toys?

My opinion? No, no it doesn't. At least not right now.

The Collectors Club has been finding a very successful formula recently for their exclusives and convention offerings. They have been able to walk that line between paying homage to the vintage elements, pulling from other mythologies (Extreme, Action Force, and Adventure Team) and adding some neat new things to create a great synergy between all of those. This year's Convention set was a primary example. We got some cool ECO Force vintage figures, new style Outback and Clutch figures, and a cool zombie storyline all woven together to create some really fun toys. What happens when Shattered Glass gets injected into that?

Pete Sinclair with the Collectors Club was quick to say that Transformers fans were negative about Shattered Glass at first, but seem to have come around...but Transformers also has a myriad of other mainstream toy lines to collect. If Transformers fans don't like Shattered Glass, they can always just buy retail (or third party for that matter). If G.I. Joe fans don't like Shattered Glass, and the Club is devoting significant resources to Shattered Glass, those G.I. Joe fans are simply out of luck.

I realize that Hasbro and the Collectors Club have done a number of updates and hundreds of new toys under the G.I. Joe banner over the past several years, but they are still just scratching the surface. There are still many more different paths the brand could take. I just don't believe, at this point, that Shattered Glass is among them.

What are your thoughts? If you feel strongly one way or another, I strongly suggest you contact the Collectors Club. Get them on Twitter (https://twitter.com/The_GIJoe_Club), on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GIJoeCollectorsClub), or on their forums at GIJoeClub.com (http://www.gijoeclub.com/forums/showthread.php?323-Club-Member-Feedback-G-I-Joe-Shattered-Glass-Yay-or-Nay). Share your concerns (if you have them). The vote at the Convention seemed pretty clear to my eyes that the Club was preparing to move forward on this. If you have strong feelings, please express them. The Club needs to know one way or the other.

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Super Sport
04-17-2014, 08:10 PM
Sounds like a scheme to sell more "easy" repaints - Joe characters will look just like their canonical versions, except they'll have little itty-bitty goatees and mustaches so you'll know they're evil...

Geek-Viper
04-20-2014, 12:12 AM
Damnations. Now I want a Flint with a goatee. And a Stalker with a Van Dike.

Oooo Oooo, and a Snake Eyes with a mustache.

skinny
04-20-2014, 11:11 PM
I like the Shattered Glass Lady Jaye but only because she reminds me of a female cobra trooper That I think was in a sunbow episode? or maybe Lady Jaye was in disguise. I can't recall right now.

Geek-Viper
04-21-2014, 09:26 PM
There was a Sunbow episode that was close. But in the alternate universe the roles weren't really switched so much as Cobra won and was in charge.

Episodes 46 & 47 Worlds Without End.

Flint, Lady Jaye, Clutch, Footloose, Airtight, BBQ, Steeler and Grunt get transported. But after some quick scanning Jaye looks like herself the whole story. There was a female Cobra Trooper that was featured a bunch that maybe you're thinking of. Unless it's a different episode stuck in your head. This was the only one I could think of that had an alternate universe story line.

skinny
04-22-2014, 10:07 PM
There was a Sunbow episode that was close. But in the alternate universe the roles weren't really switched so much as Cobra won and was in charge.

Episodes 46 & 47 Worlds Without End.

Flint, Lady Jaye, Clutch, Footloose, Airtight, BBQ, Steeler and Grunt get transported. But after some quick scanning Jaye looks like herself the whole story. There was a female Cobra Trooper that was featured a bunch that maybe you're thinking of. Unless it's a different episode stuck in your head. This was the only one I could think of that had an alternate universe story line.

Yes, I am pretty sure it was not Worlds Without End, it was either a disguise or a random female cobra trooper, I just cannot pinpoint the episode. For some reason I think the character had a clipboard. I will find it eventually.

skinny
04-23-2014, 02:35 PM
Where the reptiles roam:

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Jungle Trap:
Recondo Scarlett Duke and Rock N Roll
http://www.joetoonarchive.com/albums/S1%20Jungle%20Trap/0118.gif
http://www.joetoonarchive.com/albums/S1%20Jungle%20Trap/0133.gif

and of course Flint and Mutt:
http://www.joetoonarchive.com/albums/roc%202/0104.gif

Super Sport
04-23-2014, 02:54 PM
Where the reptiles roam:

0155.gif (http://www.joetoonarchive.com/albums/Reptiles%20Roam/0155.gif)

LJ, rockin the old school Oakleys...

BlueSpinDash97
04-30-2014, 09:16 AM
It already exists within the transformers shattered glass!
In the issue eye in the sky there's president Colton, Vice president Clay and Secretary of defence Hauser, which suggest G.I. Joe have taken over america. Cobra however have become the popular band Cold Slither who sing about peace and love (seriously they've actually released the lyrics to it!). No word on what Cobra Commanders up to however!

Lody
05-01-2014, 09:53 AM
No

Never

Don't even think about it Hasbro/Fun Pub

FireFox91
05-02-2014, 05:45 PM
I dunno, I'm not completely against the idea. I think it would be challenging to get it to work well, but it could work.

seaneley
06-14-2014, 09:53 AM
I'd rather they release new versions of Sgt. Savage and / or G.I. Joe: Extreme. Or better yet, finish up the sub-teams, like Sky Patrol, Talking Battle Commanders, DEF, Air Commandos and Super Sonic Fighters. :cool:

davestro
07-04-2014, 02:57 PM
I am open to the idea, as long as its executed well. We already had so much of this in the ARAH days with Tiger Force, Python Patrol, Sky Patrol, etc. with Joe/Cobra vehicles being repainted and switching sides. Look at Flint in Cobra Disguise from the second Sunbow series we got a figure of and its popularity (with people buying two to make Mutt).

I am enjoying the story in the Club comic. I know I would love a Wild Bill in Cobra uniform and some more Adventure Team guys.

seaneley
07-05-2014, 10:48 AM
I am open to the idea, as long as its executed well. We already had so much of this in the ARAH days with Tiger Force, Python Patrol, Sky Patrol, etc. with Joe/Cobra vehicles being repainted and switching sides. Look at Flint in Cobra Disguise from the second Sunbow series we got a figure of and its popularity (with people buying two to make Mutt).

I am enjoying the story in the Club comic. I know I would love a Wild Bill in Cobra uniform and some more Adventure Team guys.

Definitely finish off the Adventure Team. We need a "black" Adventurer at the very least... :cool:

skinny
07-17-2014, 09:33 PM
I am open to the idea, as long as its executed well. We already had so much of this in the ARAH days with Tiger Force, Python Patrol, Sky Patrol, etc. with Joe/Cobra vehicles being repainted and switching sides. Look at Flint in Cobra Disguise from the second Sunbow series we got a figure of and its popularity (with people buying two to make Mutt).

I am enjoying the story in the Club comic. I know I would love a Wild Bill in Cobra uniform and some more Adventure Team guys.

I did this well before the Club started their comic version. It was part of a contest on Deviant art:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/109/b/b/bbcb32e40515f1be10537edc576c1116-d4wxiyp.png