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Spillspleen
06-29-2005, 10:52 PM
What would you do if a member sent you threats?

Awhile back a member sent me some e-mails about how they were going to come and beat me up? Now I think this is laughable…one reason he is not even from the same country as I am.

This person is a lowlife (according to what people tell me all the time) so I doubt I would pursue this…even though he keeps trying to egg me on. Also I have about 5 other members who have had enough of this guy so I am not alone.

Anyways what would you do in this circumstance and who would you contact on this board? I do not think this is a moderator thing I think it goes beyond?

GungHo
06-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Hey Carl, honestly, I'd start by turning the guy in to the administrators of the forum that he's a member of. Then I'd report him to his ISP...and let them know that he's been sending threats. Also, I'd suggest reporting him to his email provider (if it's seperate from his ISP) for the threats that have been made.

Be prepared to provide emails of the threats.......

I'd say go after the person if they are a continued nuisance ;)

Spillspleen
06-29-2005, 11:19 PM
These e-mails are over a year old...but the funny thing if my local police got back to me today!

What a back log! And the good news is they consider his two e-mails...which I kept...to be a no no!!

Now they are forwarding this to the customs office as well...if this guy does come across...he has a real surprise coming!!! (the guys not to bright as he sent me his real name and so on)

If he enters the country he can be charged...and I could also sue him as I have a family with young children!

Here is the line that the police take as a real threat and make him liable:

"Name the date and time."

This is all bad for him. The police say that wanting to know where i live and when i will be home so that he can assult me is crazy...they would love to lock him up for this! Now they want me to give them permission to go ahead with contacting his local police...but I am not sure if I should do this?
This guy does still egg me on...and he is not liked here from what alot of people tell me in the chats and other pages...but I really would like the boards comments first!

blackdragon
06-29-2005, 11:32 PM
Was this all over action figures?

Spillspleen
06-29-2005, 11:38 PM
Well it was board related. But it was not directly because of me...I posted some questions about a problem a guy was having (more than a year ago)and this guy did not like what I asked...or what I replied with. This was not over any bad trade...or over a "he said she said' type of thing...it was over where to find some toys, so I guess it was over action figures. What it came down to is I had an opinion and he did not like it and though I should not say anything. I know sometimes boards have flame wars...and people do get out of control...but to take it to this level, well like the police said its a no no!

Obiwanjacoby
06-29-2005, 11:51 PM
That's why I archive all my disputes and put all questionable emails in my "drafts" folder. . .you never know who's holding a grudge on the back burner.

-PJ

Ann G
06-30-2005, 12:19 AM
Threatening someone through the pm system or through an email from this board is enough to get you kicked off the boards in my eyes. Other boards I go to don't tolerate it so I see no need for yojoe to tolerate it either. If anyone gets a threatening pm or email, forward it to a moderator and we will deal with it.

In a personal note...this happened a year ago? Is this person still doing this on ocasion? If he is, I would definately let the cops do their jobs. If it was just the one time, I would chalk it up to another "tough guy on the net" and let it go

thunt4
06-30-2005, 12:52 AM
To be quite honest he could be kicked off from the boards or whatever. From a legal standpoint I really don't see how you can do anything unless he does something in real life. Internet stuff is considered fantasy in courts. You can not prove it was actually that person who sent the stuff in a court room unless he admits it. I mean all he has to say was his kid sent it even though his name is on it.The only reason people ever get in trouble for internet stuff is they commit a crime in real life. There is just too many loopholes with internet stuff. I mean everytime you go in a chat room you have people fighting andyou don't see them going to jail. Another thing is people that hit on underage kids. You don't see them get arrested until they present a physical harm or attempt to meet in real life.I feel for you though because its a burden and a pain to deal with this crap. I would block him end of story.I used to be real bad with stuff like that, like I had to get my say so in. After a while of internet crap you just got to learn to not take it so serious because its just some punk playing games with you and in the long run effecting you.

thunt4
06-30-2005, 12:57 AM
If this guy is really bothering you and you do want this to end and you have the money or a friend who is a lawyer. You can do this. Have a cease and desist order I think its called sent to him. Its a document a lawyer draws up stating you wish for this person to quit all contact with you that way it shows you feel there is a problem then if he does contact you you can file harassment charges. I think thats how it works. I will have to ask my friend

cobraferret
06-30-2005, 01:00 AM
Priceless.Absolutly Priceless.
What in the world has this world come to.
Threatening over toys or an opinion............WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH?????WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO A RIGHT OF AN OPINION??????
CHILDISH AND ABSURDE
I can't believe the gaul of people these days.I am tired of the sick and criminal ways that are ruining this country and world.
He should face the maximum sentence.I too am dealing with harassment and I too have a family.I am going to pursue until the people responsible are convicted.So my advice.......BUST HIM WITH EVERYTHING YOU GOT!!!!
P.S. Just my opinion

dockingbay97
06-30-2005, 01:17 AM
Carl is talking about me - yes me. Because I was teasing him recently by saying "Plug, plug, plug" in two of his posts - teasing based on his constant promotion of his board here. Teasing that was in fun. Teasing that he obviously took wrong.

This happened two yeas ago and more. A period of time before I was a mod or associated with this site. A period of time where he relentless harrassed me in half the posts I made. And yes, there are people who remember that as well. Carl you made a game of it. You did it all the time - instigating trouble with me and a few others at every turn.

So I approached Carl and was trying to say to him if he disliked me so much that he needed to flame me all the time and since we lived so close - we could meet, settle it like men and get it out of our systems. No need to spout such venom at me when you don't even know me.

I don't have the first email I sent him but I recall saying something like "Name the date and time."

But the second email I do have and it said:



What is your deal? I am able to ship in a timely manner and have a life and the same time and you feel the need to still jab a comment and roll your eyes.

I don't know what your deal is but I will happily drive up to Abbotsford and settle this beef you have.

Name the date and time. I am tired of your petty comments about my posts.


To which he replied with his address telling me to come anytime. That is not the actions of an innocent person trying to hide from trouble.

Obviously I never went.

I learned to ignore him better.

I have long forgot about this since after awhile it appeared you grew tired of harrassing me and moved on. I never had to confront you nor wanted to.

I have been to Canada and Abbotsford since and will continue to go. I am not worried about crossing the border.

So now Carl is mad because I said "plug, plug, plug" to him a couple of times. I think he is being a little over dramatic now - painting the picture so he is innoncent so I will get into trouble. No matter what else I have to say, he'll turn it around on me.

It boils down to the guy loves harrassing me and since he lives so close to me - I wanted to talk to/confront him in person to see what his issue was.

This is just another way for him to attack me all over.

No need to out me cause I am doing it now.

blackdragon
06-30-2005, 01:24 AM
You big bully

dockingbay97
06-30-2005, 01:41 AM
And yes Carl, I know there are people who hate me. Part of that comes with being a mod.

I also think what I contribute far outweighs any over dramatized dispute between the two of us.

I am sorry "Plug, plug, plug" made you so mad. I honestly apologize for that.

cobraferret
06-30-2005, 01:55 AM
Carl is talking about me - yes me. Because I was teasing him recently by saying "Plug, plug, plug" in two of his posts - teasing based on his constant promotion of his board here. Teasing that was in fun. Teasing that he obviously took wrong.

This happened two yeas ago and more. A period of time before I was a mod or associated with this site. A period of time where he relentless harrassed me in half the posts I made. And yes, there are people who remember that as well. Carl you made a game of it. You did it all the time - instigating trouble with me and a few others at every turn.

So I approached Carl and was trying to say to him if he disliked me so much that he needed to flame me all the time and since we lived so close - we could meet, settle it like men and get it out of our systems. No need to spout such venom at me when you don't even know me.

I don't have the first email I sent him but I recall saying something like "Name the date and time."

But the second email I do have and it said:



To which he replied with his address telling me to come anytime. That is not the actions of an innocent person trying to hide from trouble.

Obviously I never went.

I learned to ignore him better.

I have long forgot about this since after awhile it appeared you grew tired of harrassing me and moved on. I never had to confront you nor wanted to.

I have been to Canada and Abbotsford since and will continue to go. I am not worried about crossing the border.

So now Carl is mad because I said "plug, plug, plug" to him a couple of times. I think he is being a little over dramatic now - painting the picture so he is innoncent so I will get into trouble. No matter what else I have to say, he'll turn it around on me.

It boils down to the guy loves harrassing me and since he lives so close to me - I wanted to talk to/confront him in person to see what his issue was.

This is just another way for him to attack me all over.

No need to out me cause I am doing it now.

I give you credit for being a man about it and saying it was you.That took alot of guts.
Can't we all just get along.

Ann G
06-30-2005, 02:00 AM
ah..more of the story is coming out...

maybe it is best if you two just ignore each other as much as possible....and no teasing from either direction.

GarrettCRW
06-30-2005, 02:05 AM
OK, I'm going to be stupid and enter this can of worms.....

Firstly, Spillspleen: If you felt so threatened, why are you waiting until today to announce this issue, or bring it to the board's attention? Why now? Especially since the party in question is now a mod (like me) and in good standing with the yojoe staff.

Secondly, I've seen and/or heard of crap like this before. I mean, real threats. Forged e-mails (simply because someone slagged a certain well known fan group on a then-prominent message board). You know, the real deal. And, apparently, the Joe community still has to deal with this type of junk. I'm not making a judgement or anything, mind you, just shaking my head in disgust.

Right now, I think I'll leave this thread open, but any flames, and I might get angry.

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. ;) (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

*departs to contemplate the meaning of life or something*

BIGFAN
06-30-2005, 02:58 AM
while i am not involved in this tiff i was recently flamed for no real reason and it was allowed to stand (and i still dont know why)

carl i know you..your a big guy and very confident in yourself..why rehash this stuff? i know your not actually worried so why the post? it was to long ago man

i am going to lock this post because it will only go bad in the end

if tempers flare then things will happen that could have been avoided...you 2 should email or pm and work this out

end of story...if i can be flamed and posted negative for nothing then so can anyone else and usually it just takes a little time and communication to work it out. you both deserve better than out and out fighting in an open forum.

spats in the open about old garbage do no one any good.