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gutstheberserker
11-22-2005, 02:31 PM
In another thread, thunt mentioned that there might be a 5 pack of Joes released in 1982 through Hess. I wanted to see if anyone knew anything about this?

thunt4
11-22-2005, 05:37 PM
I am not positive it was hess' but I know it was a store exclusive. I saw one mip about 14 years ago but when I saw it I was like wow I never knew this existed.I wish I would have saved the pics of it.

dmooretoys
11-22-2005, 09:44 PM
I have never seen this but I believe Brian (thunt4) wholeheartedly. He has never led me astray before so I know it must exist, I just hope it surfaces soon so we can all see it. That sounds like a really cool set.

Dan

gutstheberserker
11-22-2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I believe Brian -- if anyone knows about that stuff, its him. I was hoping by starting the thread that more info would pop up on it like the Cobra 3 pack. I sent an e-mail to a well-known Hess toy collector and he said he had never heard of it so it may not be Hess.

dmooretoys
11-22-2005, 11:39 PM
I haven't seen a Hess catalog--does anyone know if they exist? If so I will start chasing those down as well.

Dan

thunt4
11-22-2005, 11:53 PM
Well I would have bought it but back then 14 years ago the guy was selling it for $500 so back then that was a retarded price.I only saw it in a magazine and not in person.I am glad the pic of the soldier 3 pack showed up. I used to own 1 of 3 of those. I remember the key to telling them apart is the lot numbers on the file card as to where they came from.

Taichiro
11-23-2005, 08:29 AM
That's well and good, but what came in this fabled 5-pack, so I know what to look for?

jabba the drunk
11-23-2005, 01:57 PM
...but what came in this fabled 5-pack, so I know what to look for?

Good question! That's what I wanted to know too, Taichiro.

thunt, do you happen to recall which Cobras were included in this 5 pack? I know that JC Penney or Sears in 1984 sold a Cobra 6 pack, which consisted of Destro, Major Bludd, Baroness, Stormshadow, Firefly, and Scrap Iron.

-Peter

Edit: My best recollection is that it was Sears.

airedevon
11-23-2005, 02:29 PM
I don't have info about a 5 pack, but here are some pics (I think) of the 1984 Sears 6-packs to which Peter made reference:

[img=http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8476/dsc012061qx.th.jpg] (http://img192.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012061qx.jpg)

[img=http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4809/dsc012070rw.th.jpg] (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012070rw.jpg)

[img=http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9505/dsc012084kn.th.jpg] (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012084kn.jpg)]

In the picture of the "bad guys" 6, it shows a trooper, in the description it says Cobra Commander...
Aire

smarchitelli
11-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Excellent stuff!

Aire, can you please post a picture of the entire catalog page of descriptions for the 1984 catalog?

Thanks!

Onslaught Six
11-23-2005, 03:41 PM
In the picture of the "bad guys" 6, it shows a trooper, in the description it says Cobra Commander...

I have a theory about this. Look close at the first CC filecard...Really, it never specifically names him as "Cobra Commander." Really, that's more like his function than his name. YoJoe itself only really lists him as "Enemy Leader" (the big font is always the name), so I think, originally, his name wasn't supposed to be "Cobra Commander."

That, and I think his original design was more like a higher ranking Cobra officer rather than the helmeted guy we got. But, that's all just what I think, and besides the filecard I really have nothing to prove any of it.

On a related note, it could just be a catalogue flub.

dmooretoys
11-23-2005, 04:12 PM
I just don't get it--I have that catalog and I completely missed that! Thanks for posting, Aire! I wonder if anyone has pics of the G.I. Joe set on that same page.

Dan

tripwire
11-23-2005, 04:30 PM
Now that the 82 Cobra set has turned up, I wonder how long it will be until some of these other catalog sets start showing up. This is pretty cool, I wonder how many undiscovered and previously unknown, or at least little known, sets will begin surfacing?

jabba the drunk
11-23-2005, 04:45 PM
I don't have info about a 5 pack, but here are some pics (I think) of the 1984 Sears 6-packs to which Peter made reference:

[img=http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8476/dsc012061qx.th.jpg] (http://img192.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012061qx.jpg)

[img=http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4809/dsc012070rw.th.jpg] (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012070rw.jpg)

[img=http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9505/dsc012084kn.th.jpg] (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012084kn.jpg)]

In the picture of the "bad guys" 6, it shows a trooper, in the description it says Cobra Commander...
Aire

That's my Aire...always supplying the best 'Joe references! Thanks, Aire. :)

Now...I could have sworn the sixth character was Major Bludd. But the picture and text are proving me wrong. The Cobra soldier does ring some bells.

There was an auction a year or two ago for this Cobra 6 pack. The figures were loose, but with their uncut filecards. I corresponded back and forth with the seller. If my hard drive hadn't crashed last week, I'd be able to find the emails.

Anyway, I know a member here won the auction. I believe he was a filecard collector, but can't remember exactly who it was. I search for the thread. He should be able to clear it up.

-Peter

thunt4
11-23-2005, 06:42 PM
lol Jabba you have the destro out of that set. That 6 pack is redback mailer bagged cobras. I submitted the pics to the cardback archives of what I still owned. I am not sure however how they were packaged.Maybe a brown box i am not sure but they did come as bagged figures.
The set includes destro, storm shadow, scrap iron,firefly,baroness,cobra
If you check the cardback archives i have pics of the cobra in there. As far as major bludd let me find the catalog and i can show you those as well

thunt4
11-23-2005, 06:50 PM
http://www.yojoe.com/archive/ads/images/2sears851.jpg
Heres some other redbacks in bags and you can see some in the cardback archices. the sets include quick kick dusty footloose bbq airtight alpine
cobras cg,eels snow serpent,ripper and torch and tele vipers, also you could get the crimson twins and those came both single and double packed

thunt4
11-23-2005, 06:58 PM
http://www.yojoe.com/archive/ads/images/2sears831.jpg
doc gungho airborne came on redback mailer bags, check the cardback section I think i submitted all of those
tripwire,snowjob,torpedo came the same way
http://www.yojoe.com/archive/ads/images/2sears832.jpg
destro major bludd
again check the arhives if you want to see pics

Taichiro
11-23-2005, 06:59 PM
Anybody know where I can get a couple of the 5-packs?

thunt4
11-23-2005, 07:12 PM
http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012070rw.jpg
Also in this photo the roadblock,snowjob,mutt,ripcord recondo and spirit came as a set.
Now to answer the above question about the 5 pack it was the 1982 gijoe figures not cobra. I can't quite remember but i think it was grunt,zap and 3 others for sure but this set you could see the figures all together where as the sears ones came in a brown box and gave assortment numbers which you can see on the file cards. I really don't expect anyone to believe me which is fine by me bcause thats how people are. I used to own every single specimen of the ones i mentioned so I know how those came packaged. I wish i could get the photo of the 5 pack but i really doubt its going to turn up but maybe it will. I am good at finding things. Most of the pics I submitted to the cardback archives with a few exceptions because yojoe never would submit my photos . I would like to thank dmooretoys because he was the only one that ever took an interest in anything i sent in that was rare.

Mr. Crimson
11-26-2005, 02:59 AM
I have never heard of a 1982 5-pack. However, inclined to believe I am glad someone can provide information.

-Lewis

bigjohnwoo
11-26-2005, 03:21 AM
...but this set you could see the figures all together where as the sears ones came in a brown box...

Do you mean they were packaged together in a box with a window "Special Missions Brazil"-style?

Or that all 5 were on the mailer box, MOTU-style (http://www.eternian.com/mailaway/Mailaway.htm)?

Or do you mean they all came blistered on connected redbacks?

gutstheberserker
11-26-2005, 08:53 AM
Brian, this is what I've been able to piece together so far -- am I missing something?

REDBACKS
JC Penney

1982 3 pack Set 1 – Snake Eyes, Stalker, Scarlett

1982 3 pack Set 2 – Zap, Short Fuze, Breaker

1982 3 pack Set 3 – Rock N Roll, Flash, Grunt

1982 3 pack Set 4 – Cobra Officer, 2 Cobra Soldiers

Sears

1982 3 pack set 1 – grunt, snake eyes, flash

1982 3 pack set 2 – zap, breaker, short fuze

1982 3 pack set 3 – rock n roll, scarlet, stalker

1983 3 pack – tripwire, snowjob, and torpedo

1983 3 pack – cc, destro, major bludd

1984 6 pack Joes roadblock,snowjob,mutt,ripcord recondo and spirit

1984 6 pack Cobras -- destro, storm shadow, scrap iron,firefly,baroness,cobra

1985 6 pack Joes -- quick kick dusty footloose bbq airtight alpine

1985 6 pack Cobras -- cobras cg,eels snow serpent,ripper and torch and tele vipers

1985 Tomax & Xamot – single and double packed

Unknown

1982 -- 5 pack (may include Grunt and Zap) ???

dmooretoys
11-26-2005, 02:48 PM
Most of the pics I submitted to the cardback archives with a few exceptions because yojoe never would submit my photos . I would like to thank dmooretoys because he was the only one that ever took an interest in anything i sent in that was rare.

You're welcome, Brian! I was just trying to fix a few things during my brief tenure on the staff and with your help (and a few others' help) I was able to add a few of these items.

Dan

gutstheberserker
11-27-2005, 10:30 AM
Were there any JC Penney or Sears vehicles that came bagged instead of boxed? I thought the bagged ones were all Hasbro Direct.

thunt4
11-27-2005, 10:55 AM
As far as I know they all came boxed like the store version. I know you could get them through sears and jcpenneys before the store, i remember getting my bridgelayer and mauler before they were in the store. You have to realize on those ones hasbro would submit a pic to those companies since they had to make the catalogs way before the toy came out.I will look over the list above and see iif I can add to anything. The 1982 figs came bubbled and the rest were bagged.

gutstheberserker
11-28-2005, 04:28 PM
Figured I'd throw this out there to keep the thread alive. I've been talking to some other collectors and retailers and here are some comments/questions that came up:

1. Apparently there were more JC Penney/Sears 3 packs available that weren't mentioned on the list above?

2. Someone also mentioned an 82 or 83 collector's case mail away that came with 9 or 10 redbacks. This may have been a Hasbro direct offer.

3. I heard that vehicles purchased from Sears or JC catalogs may have had distribution stickers on them -- not sure if it was an actual sticker or part of the box like a UPC.

4. Someone thought Montgomery Ward had offers like this?

5. Another interesting discussion dealt with the 1983 to 1985 sears redbacks and if they were all bagged rather than sealed with a bubble. Assuming they were bagged, are they any different than the Hasbro direct mail aways? For example, was blowtorch redback only part of the sears 3 pack or could you get the identical redback from Hasbro?

6. Anybody have a list of what Hasbro direct offered as far as mail aways at least from 1982-1986?

thunt4
11-28-2005, 05:35 PM
Ok #2 on your list is a mail away. I think there was 10. If you check on yojoe there is the list somewhere. I will look for it later. 1982 is the only year there was bubbled figures from sears or jcpenneyes. However there are hasbro direct bubbled ones I have seen. I have seen duke in a bubble already.As far as telling where a figure came from. If you look on the file card it gives a 4 digit asst number and thats how you can tell where it came from. The asst number will match the one in the catalogs. The sticker you are referring to from sears or jcpenneys is just an inventory number but will have the asst number onit. Its not part of the packaging. Its just a sticker that was placed on the box to show what was what when an order came in. I may have pictures of this as I have some photos of me getting certain sears mail order items. When you say you want a list do you want vehicles and figures or just vehicles?

gutstheberserker
11-28-2005, 07:21 PM
When you say you want a list do you want vehicles and figures or just vehicles?

Whatever you are aware of. Your pretty much the master in this area so I defer to you. Also, check your e-mails ;)


Does anybody know which 3 were in JC Penney mailer box catalog # 655-3945

dmooretoys
11-28-2005, 09:13 PM
The 10-pack you are referring to is often called the "original team" set although it doesn't include all the 1982 releases (has some from 1983). The team could be ordered from this insert:

http://yojoe.com/archive/inserts/operationfreedom.shtml

The set was also available from one of the G.I. Joe magazines:

http://yojoe.com/archive/ads/1986hasbrodirect.shtml

Those scans are hard to see so I will tell you who was included. In addition to the carrying case the set included Major Bludd, Cobra Officer, Stalker, Zap, Doc, Airborne, Grunt, Short Fuze, Rock 'N Roll, and Flash. The set was $25 with NO flag points. The last set of these I saw on ebay went for around $250 I think, and it was a mint, complete set.

The same insert above had two other sets available. The 10 figures were also sold in sets of five for $12.50 with NO flag points (carrying case not included). These were called "Alpha Patrol" and "Bravo Patrol" and consisted of the following:

Alpha Patrol: Stalker, Doc, Grunt, Rock 'N Roll, and Flash

Bravo Patrol: Major Bludd, Cobra Officer, Zap, Airborne, and Short Fuze


I wonder how the Joes in Bravo Patrol liked having Cobras on their team? Just kidding!

Dan

gutstheberserker
11-28-2005, 09:39 PM
Great info, thanks for the links.

smarchitelli
11-29-2005, 09:07 AM
JC Penney mailer box catalog # 655-3945 contains:

Mine Detector
SEAL (Sea, Air, and Land)
Arctic Trooper




Whatever you are aware of. Your pretty much the master in this area so I defer to you. Also, check your e-mails ;)


Does anybody know which 3 were in JC Penney mailer box catalog # 655-3945

RRL75
11-29-2005, 10:18 AM
When I had my large collection that I sold to John Missal (and does anyone know if he's still active in the hobby or not?) I had a 3 pack in a brown mailer box that consisted of Swivel Arm Cobra Commander, Cobra Officer, and Cobra Soldier all in individual bags with filecards. I believe it was a Hasbro item as opposed to a catalog item, but I could be incorrect. Does anyone remember if stores like Best, Evans, or Consumers (maybe all east coast companies) had special sets in their christmas catalogs? I haven't seen the catalogs for years but someone may want to dig those up to check as well.

Howie

dmooretoys
11-29-2005, 05:51 PM
Does anyone remember if stores like Best, Evans, or Consumers (maybe all east coast companies) had special sets in their christmas catalogs? I haven't seen the catalogs for years but someone may want to dig those up to check as well.

I have the BEST 1982/83 catalog (Sep 82-Aug 83) and the BEST 1983/84 catalog (Sep 83-Aug 84) and neither has the figure multi-packs. In fact, no figures were available at all from the catalogs even though they are pictured. You could order the vehicles but it says to check the showrooms for the figures.

BEST could have offered figure multi-packs in their showrooms but they were not available from the catalogs so who knows what they had?

Dan

gutstheberserker
11-30-2005, 01:16 PM
When I had my large collection that I sold to John Missal (and does anyone know if he's still active in the hobby or not?) I had a 3 pack in a brown mailer box that consisted of Swivel Arm Cobra Commander, Cobra Officer, and Cobra Soldier all in individual bags with filecards. I believe it was a Hasbro item as opposed to a catalog item, but I could be incorrect. Does anyone remember if stores like Best, Evans, or Consumers (maybe all east coast companies) had special sets in their christmas catalogs? I haven't seen the catalogs for years but someone may want to dig those up to check as well.

Howie

Was the cobra commander a mickey mouse or regular version?

smarchitelli
11-30-2005, 01:21 PM
The bagged version in this case should be the regular version logo.

The bubbled versions came in either mickey mouse or regular version logos.

Steve


Was the cobra commander a mickey mouse or regular version?

RRL75
11-30-2005, 01:23 PM
Since I remember the set being all swivel-arm it's safe to say that it was the regular version of the symbol since I believe the "Mickey Mouse" was only on the earliest of straight-arms. If I wasn't so lazy I'd dig through my basement and check the mail-order catalogs to see if the three figures were offered together by Hasbro. Might get to that this weekend. Also recently saw that I still have some of the old Cotswold Collectibles catalogs. I'll comb those for any obscure items that they may have had for sale back in the early 90's. Has anyone else been doing this long enough to remember the Cotswold Collectibles catalogs and auctions? Those were good times!

Howie

gutstheberserker
11-30-2005, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the info Steve. So did the 3 pack with the Mickey Mouse bubbled version with mailer box come from a mail away. I know they came bubbled from the Missle Command but I don't think they were boxed inside.

smarchitelli
11-30-2005, 01:39 PM
The Mickey Mouse CC bubbled version came with the Cobra Missile Command HQ 3-pack

AND

as a regular single Hasbro mail in (I have one with a single mailer box).

Steve


Thanks for the info Steve. So did the 3 pack with the Mickey Mouse bubbled version with mailer box come from a mail away. I know they came bubbled from the Missle Command but I don't think they were boxed inside.

Tattoo Shane
11-30-2005, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the info Steve. So did the 3 pack with the Mickey Mouse bubbled version with mailer box come from a mail away. I know they came bubbled from the Missle Command but I don't think they were boxed inside.

The three bubbled figures in the Missile Command came inside a brown mailer box that was packed inside the Missile Command box. You can see pics of it on page 15 of Mark Bellomo's book.

And, i figure the Canadian multi-packs should be mentioned here as well.

In the 1982 Sears Canada Wishbook there were three multi-packs offered:

Set A) - Flash, Snake-Eyes and Grunt
Set B) - Zap, Short Fuze and Breaker
Set C) - Rock and Roll, Stalker, and Scarlett

Rock and Roll, Zap and Flash were all listed as being Sears exclusives and you can see a scan of the catalogue here:
http://www.tattoosandtoys.com/images_yours/SearsJoe82.jpg

I submitted pics to the Archive sometime ago, but big shock, they never made it on.

As far as i've been able to ascertain, there are two different types of Sears Canada packs as well. The ones listed above apparently shipped in white mailer boxes with a plain black GI Joe logo on front.

The other set was an in-store exclusive and is what can be seen here:
http://www.yojoe.com/archive/misc/sears3pack.shtml

I spoke with the former owner of this particular piece and he claims it came from Sears Canada but the lack of the French text on the box perplexes me as if it came from Sears Canada, it should be on there. He also got a lot of items from Sears in the US back in the day so it could be an american piece - i'm going to have to hit him up with some more questions one of these days.

Unfortunately, i don't have any early Consumer's Distributing catalogues to see if they also offered any multi-packs.

gutstheberserker
11-30-2005, 02:25 PM
Great info Shane -- Here is a pic of the white mailer box:
http://www.yojoe.com/archive/misc/sears3pack2.shtml

I wonder if the 1982 3 packs contained the same 3 figures for both US and Canada. Does anyone have the 1982 US Sears Catalog to see which 3 packs were offered? I'll check the other cobra 3 pack thread to see if it was in there.

Tattoo Shane
11-30-2005, 03:08 PM
Thanks for that link Trent. I didn't know that one was on the archive as well.

Like i said, i know the original owner of both those items so hopefully i can hit him up for some more information. He's from here and was a pretty major local dealer back in the day and he was the source for many of the obscure Canadian exclusives that sold through Cotswald in the early 90s.

thunt4
11-30-2005, 05:23 PM
As far as canada vs us box the canada box does have a difference.I remember on ebay there was a difference on the boxes. Now as far as cobra commander goes he came bubbled both normal and mm logo and he also came both ways. Trent you have the bagged version of the cc mm that I sold you a while back and that one came as a mail in as far as I know

dmooretoys
11-30-2005, 10:31 PM
Does anyone have the 1982 US Sears Catalog to see which 3 packs were offered? I'll check the other cobra 3 pack thread to see if it was in there.

I just got my 1982 Sears catalog in the mail. I told thunt4 I would email him about this but I guess since you asked I will just post it here. 3-Packs included in the 1982 Sears U.S. catalog were:


pg 606 #4
Pictured: Short Fuze, Zap, and Breaker
Description: Mortarman, bazookaman, officer
Catalog Number: 49 N 59458


pg 606 #5
Pictured: Grunt, Flash, Rock 'N Roll
Description: Infantryman, laser rifleman, machine gunner
Catalog Number: 49 N 59459


pg 606 #6
Pictured: Snake Eyes, Stalker, Scarlett
Description: Explosives commando, sub-machine gunner ranger, counter intelligence officer
Catalog Number: 49 N 59461


I included the descriptions just because they are so funny. I mean, who has ever called Stalker a "sub-machine gunner ranger?"

One interesting observation--notice how number 60 is skipped. The sets end with 58, 59, and 61 but there is no set that ends with 60. I also checked the item numbers for the rest of the page as well as the surrounding pages in each direction and there is no number that ends with 60. This may only mean that Sears planned on one more set that never came to fruition but I just thought I would point it out.

This is one of my favorite threads so let's keep it up guys. I love the 1982 items more than anything.

Dan

Tattoo Shane
11-30-2005, 11:32 PM
I agree Dan, this is a great thread and i think we're finally getting somewhere with nailing down all this info.

It's good to have confirmation on those Sears US sets - i guess it pretty much proves that the multi-pack i linked to above is Cdn as the US sets don't match these at all. Perhaps there's french text on the other side of the box...

gutstheberserker
12-01-2005, 01:55 PM
Yeah, this is great information. It would be great if the archives could be updated to reflect this.

Dan, do you think 60 is the Sears Missle Command 3 pack? I wonder if the US sears mailers came in the plain brown box or different packaging. There was an ebay user that won a rock n roll set with the mailer box not too long ago but I can't remember his name. I wanted to ask him what came in the set because I couldn't find the link anymore. I think it was Sears but it might have been JC Penneys. You almost never see the sears sets for sale.

EDIT: Another interesting thing is that the 82 sets for Sears and Penney's are identical as far as the figs you get.

KING
12-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Ohhhhhhhh

The GI Joe HO Sized Train Set. One of the best CHristmas Presents I had ever gotten!!!!!

I loved that set!!!!

gutstheberserker
12-01-2005, 03:11 PM
On the Hasbro Direct vehicles, I know there are these:

Firebat
Wolf
APC
Ferret
Stun
Pac Rats
Serpentor
Manta


I'm sure there are many more but those I have seen or have.

Tattoo Shane
12-01-2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah, this is great information. It would be great if the archives could be updated to reflect this.

There was an ebay user that won a rock n roll set with the mailer box not too long ago but I can't remember his name. I wanted to ask him what came in the set because I couldn't find the link anymore. I think it was Sears but it might have been JC Penneys.

If we're thinking of the same set, it was a JC Penny set. He listed it as being Canadian because "catalogue" was spelled properly on the box but it definately wasn't as we don't have JC Penny's up here. I could have sworn i saved pics of it but i can't find them anywhere on my computer.

And, if things go according to plan, i'm hoping this thread will form the foundation for something on a larger scale. ;)

gutstheberserker
12-01-2005, 04:27 PM
That would definitely be cool. Especially if we had pics of the 3 packs as well as the catalog pages. I think we will eventually be able to pin down the Sears and JC Penney stuff by using catalogs. I think the Hasbro direct list may be a little bit harder because of the large number of items they offered.

thunt4
12-01-2005, 05:58 PM
Ok Trent heres a few that I know are mailin vehicles for sure.
1982 hal,flak,mms,jump
1983 apc,fang,hiss,polar battle bear,wolverine,all 3 pacrats, I think the whirlwind came as one but can't remember for sure.
1984 water mocassin,vamp mk 2,stinger,slugger,skyhawk,sharc,killer whale,manta, I think the asp came as a mail in too but can't remember for sure
1985 the 1984 machine,missile,mortar, came with the forward observer,rifle range and ammo dump all came in one set, halo pack, ferret atv
1986 serpentor and air chariot,recon sled,triple t

All of these I have owned. There are more and i will write more down when I get some time. Trent I will write you back soon. Been kinda busy the past 2 days..

gutstheberserker
12-01-2005, 06:05 PM
Hey, Brian. Great info, thanks!!!

ImaWalkingCorpse
12-02-2005, 08:03 PM
You guys are amazing with all the info, now it has made me want to purchase these sets, good job men.

danielmd06
12-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Not to sound redundant with the praise, but this is one of the best threads I've read yet. Extremely interesting, even if I have none of the packs being spoken of. It's always great to learn more.

We should have discussion like these more often.

gutstheberserker
12-02-2005, 08:21 PM
Yeah, its really great stuff. I had no idea about half this stuff. Has anybody checked the Montgomery Ward catalogs? Would Benney's have sold any? I know they did the later Mud/HISS II exclusive so figured they may have something.

dmooretoys
12-02-2005, 10:20 PM
Ok, guys, I have some more to contribute since I just won a 1984 Sears Toys Specialog:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6990042490&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I won this catalog thinking it would probably be the same items that were in the 84 Sears Christmas Wish Book but boy was I wrong! Perhaps the most interesting thing about it is the Cobra Missle Command Headquarters was still available to order. The figures pictured with it are straight-arm figures (different poses than the 82 wish book) and the expiration date to order from this catalog was August 31, 1984. The catalog number for the Missle Command HQ was 49 C 59466 (same number it had in the 1982 Sears Christmas Wish Book).

Three 3-Packs were available for order in this catalog and they were:


#6 pg 576 'Copter Trooper, Medic, Marine (pictured-Airborne, Doc, Gung-Ho) Item # 49 C 59372 $7.99

#7 pg 576 Mine Detector; Air, Sea, Land Trooper; Arctic Trooper (pictured-Tripwire, Torpedo, Snow Job) Item # 49 C 59428 $7.99

#13 pg 577 Cobra Commander, Destro, Major Bludd Item # 49 C 59319 $7.99


That's it for now....I'll try to get a comprehensive mail-in vehicle list based on the paperwork posted before the end of the weekend, Trent.

Dan

gutstheberserker
12-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Ok I updated the list to reflect everyone's entries. I imagine that JC Penney probably had at least the same 1983 3 packs as Sears but haven't been able to confirm that. My dates may be off on them as well and should probably be the dates of the catalogs. Any thing I missed or revisions?

REDBACKS
JC Penney

1982 3 pack Set 1 – Snake Eyes, Stalker, Scarlett

1982 3 pack Set 2 – Zap, Short Fuze, Breaker

1982 3 pack Set 3 – Rock N Roll, Flash, Grunt

1982 3 pack Set 4 – Cobra Officer, 2 Cobra Soldiers

1983 3 pack -- Tripwire, Snow Job, Torpedo

Canadian Sears

1982 3 pack set 1 – grunt, snake eyes, flash

1982 3 pack set 2 – zap, breaker, short fuze

1982 3 pack set 3 – rock n roll, scarlet, stalker

U.S. Sears

1982 3 pack Snake Eyes, Stalker, Scarlett

1982 3 pack Grunt, Flash, Rock 'N Roll

1982 3 pack Short Fuze, Zap, and Breaker

1983 3 pack – tripwire, snowjob, and torpedo

1983 3 pack – cc, destro, major bludd

1983 3 pack -- doc, gung-ho, airborne

1984 6 pack Joes roadblock,snowjob,mutt,ripcord recondo and spirit

1984 6 pack Cobras -- destro, storm shadow, scrap iron,firefly,baroness,cobra

1985 6 pack Joes -- quick kick dusty footloose bbq airtight alpine

1985 6 pack Cobras -- cobras cg,eels snow serpent,ripper and torch and tele vipers

1985 Tomax & Xamot – single and double packed

Unknown

1982 -- 5 pack (may include Grunt and Zap) ???

airedevon
12-02-2005, 10:46 PM
Dan,

Thanks for posting that! I'm glad to find out where those pages came from. I have them in my Ad notebook - but back in the early 80's I was mostly concerned with the items themselves and not other stuff (how we change :-)

I have 1983 written on the pages... I wonder why? I wonder if these pages were available in both 83 and 84...

Here are the 2 pages (not great pics.. sorry)

[img=http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7108/dsc012264qt.th.jpg] (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012264qt.jpg)

[img=http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6950/dsc012251ea.th.jpg] (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc012251ea.jpg)

airedevon
12-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Trent, cool!

dmooretoys
12-02-2005, 11:32 PM
I have 1983 written on the pages... I wonder why? I wonder if these pages were available in both 83 and 84...


Aire,

These are the exact same pages that are in the 1984 Sears Toys Specialog except for one difference--pg 577 had an item 18 which was the G.I. Joe Electric Train & Battle Set. It looks like yours may have been cut off, though.

You know, these could be the same pages that were in the 1983 Christmas Wish Book as well. I don't have that one yet but it looks like I need to pick it up.

Dan

tripwire
12-03-2005, 10:14 AM
Awesome! It's nice to finally see a compilation of the multipacks. I wonder now if there is at least one unopened example of each one floating out there somewhere, and when they will surface. Now, how about we add the exclusive vehicles and such, making the ultimate list.

jabba the drunk
12-03-2005, 11:38 AM
Some new additions to the list:

JC Penney's 1985 Gijoe 6 Pack: Airtight, Alpine, Quick Kick, Barbeque, Footloose, and ????

JC Penney's 1985 Cobra 6 Pack: Tele-Viper, Snow Serpent, Crimson Guard, Eels, Ripper, Torch

The ???? in the Gijoe pack is due to the fact that I'm analyzing an Ebay auction picture, which is not very detailed. The sixth Joe seems to be cut-off in the picture. I'm guessing it's Dusty.

Anybody else want to give it a best guess? Here is the auction link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1985-JC-Penney-Christmas-Catalog-Star-Wars-Care-Bears_W0QQitemZ6991531270QQcategoryZ118259QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Also...it looks like there is an intersting Gijoe figure case in this catalog. I can't tell if it's a Hasbro product or not?

-Peter

gutstheberserker
12-03-2005, 11:57 AM
Peter,

Great info. I think what we are starting to see is the JC Penney's releases were identical to the Sears releases, so my vote is the last figure is Dusty.

dmooretoys
12-03-2005, 12:06 PM
I just won a 1983 Sears Wish Book so if there is anything in it I will post it as well.

Dan

ImaWalkingCorpse
12-03-2005, 01:02 PM
I know what I want for christmas now... my girlfriend thanks you all... lol

gutstheberserker
12-04-2005, 09:47 PM
Is this the box that came inside the Missle Command?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6017634290&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

dmooretoys
12-04-2005, 10:42 PM
Is this the box that came inside the Missle Command?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6017634290&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Good question. I was the "Dan" that asked him the numbers on the file cards and his response was they are all marked 6200. Someone else asked him the number on the box and the answer was #157211.00. What is weird about that is in Mark Bellomo's book he has a box for the figures pictured that actually says "6200 G.I. Joe Catalogue Special," which matches the number on the file cards in this auction. I'm not sure if Sears substituted a later box with the earlier bubbled figures (as opposed to the bagged ones) or if this is a different box altogether.

Anyone else care to speculate?

Dan

gutstheberserker
12-04-2005, 10:53 PM
Yeah I asked him the question about the numbers on the box. I didn't realize the 3 figs came in this box inside the Missle command box so that's why I thought it was weird. I think someone said you could also order them from Hasbro like that which would make sense given the writing on the box. Does anyone know if there were inserts inside the box?

Loose Cannon
12-04-2005, 11:07 PM
I remember a 5 pack of cobras and a five pack of joes. What struck me about the picture for the five pack of Cobras was there was a cobra soldier kneeling with a Mortar(short fuze's), one with a Bazooka(Zap's original but black) and one with a machine gun(Rock'n'Roll's), plus a cobra officer and a soldier. They looked the same just different weapons I'm thinking this was 81 though. I don't think cobra commander was out yet. If not JCpenneys or Sears maybe AAFES catalog (American Armed Forces Exchange).

gutstheberserker
12-05-2005, 08:18 AM
I remember a 5 pack of cobras and a five pack of joes. What struck me about the picture for the five pack of Cobras was there was a cobra soldier kneeling with a Mortar(short fuze's), one with a Bazooka(Zap's original but black) and one with a machine gun(Rock'n'Roll's), plus a cobra officer and a soldier. They looked the same just different weapons I'm thinking this was 81 though. I don't think cobra commander was out yet. If not JCpenneys or Sears maybe AAFES catalog (American Armed Forces Exchange).

Brian could this be what you were referring to? I think someone else (Peter?) mentioned the cobra 5 pack. I contacted the ebay sellers that have the Penney's and Sears 1981 Catalogs and they said that there were no G.I. Joes. I couldn't find the AAFES Catalog.

thunt4
12-05-2005, 05:02 PM
I talked to someone at a toy show over the weekend that has collected as long as I have and he is in the same boat as me. He does know of the 5 pack but neither one of us can prove it. He was going to check to see if he had any more info on it. We only remember the gijoe 5 pack and not the cobra though.

BIGFAN
01-17-2006, 02:30 PM
Some new additions to the list:

JC Penney's 1985 Gijoe 6 Pack: Airtight, Alpine, Quick Kick, Barbeque, Footloose, and ????

The ???? in the Gijoe pack is due to the fact that I'm analyzing an Ebay auction picture, which is not very detailed. The sixth Joe seems to be cut-off in the picture. I'm guessing it's Dusty.

-Peter


its dusty my man

i just got all 6 uncut cards in today. had to dig this up to make sure i had them placed right

but it is airtight alpine quick kick barbacue footloose and dusty

cool set! i would love to see one mibaggs!

these cards are redbacks with no bubble attachments

Outback87
01-17-2006, 03:25 PM
Is there an online spot where all of the catalogs and ads are posted? I had the Torpedo/Tripwire/Snow Job set from Sears (it came in a small brown cardboard box) but didn't realize all the rest of this existed! This is great.

I'd like to look through all the old Sears catalogs.

Thanks, guys for all the work! This is a fantastic thread!

danielmd06
01-17-2006, 05:12 PM
its dusty my man

Thanks for the update information, Curt.

tarz_an2003
02-16-2006, 05:55 PM
Hey guys,

I know I'm a little late but... in continuing this GREAT thread, I need some help in identifying this particular file card that I was recently able to acquire sometime last month.

It looks like one of those harder to find uncut file cards (red-backing) with the black background. The black is all around the bio of the character's peach file card. The one I have is of the 1983 Zap (swivel arm). And if this helps any, it does have the Flag Point in the upper right hand corner of the file card, with the year 1982 printed on it. And here's another piece of vital information, it's got the Asst. 6195 printed there as well. Anyway, any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

I've just recently started my file card collecting and I'm creating a huge album for my file cards. And I just wanna make sure that I've got my facts straight, because next to the file cards I'm creating these small info boxes next to all my file cards with llisted variations, when, what and where kinda stuff.

I just wanted to say thank you all for the combined efforts, in enlightening everyone on the GREAT historical facts of these SEARS, Montgomery Ward and JCPenney exclusives! You guys are awesome~

YoOOo~ Joe!



:) -An


P.S.
I'll try to get a picture posted up of my black uncut Zap file card for you guys to see. I wasn't sure how rare this file card is or not, but I'm sure you guys can be the ones to tell me!

keg_daddy
02-17-2006, 02:06 PM
I'm making a list on what figures came in the different Asst. numbers and it would be interesting to know which figures came in Asst. 6184, 6185, 6186, 6187, 6189 6190, 6191

dmooretoys
02-17-2006, 02:24 PM
I will hopefully have for all this information by June. I need three more Sears Wish Books to complete my 1982-94 run and then I am going to focus on the Pennys Christmas books (I have a few of these already). I'm trying to pace myself and get these as cheaply as possible but rest assured I WILL get all this information out to everyone hopefully by June. It wouldn't take so long but I still have to pick up the other items I collect, too!

By the way, I have been emailing ebay sellers and getting information about which catalogs carry the Joes and let's just say there were more than just Sears, Pennys, and Wards. Of course I'll try to get the others as well because I'm a completionist.

Dan

Little Dragon
02-17-2006, 10:14 PM
I just found this thread and O my goodness, talk about cool information and all the feelings it brought back. Man I remember going through these ever year before Christmas and marking the ones I wanted for my parents. Talk about memories. Great job guys and please keep it up.:D
Yo Joe,
Joe

keg_daddy
02-27-2006, 09:32 AM
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jabba the drunk
02-27-2006, 07:34 PM
That's a helluva post, keg daddy. :)

Thanks for putting in the time and effort to uncover this info and compose such an incredible and comprehensive list. I'm really floored.

Kudos, man!

-Peter

smarchitelli
02-28-2006, 08:54 AM
Agreed, excllent post!

One correction:

(*2) 1983, 1985 (6183.40 Asst.) Eels, Crimson Guard, Buzzer, Snow Serpent, Ripper, and Tele-Vipers; there was never a Torch available sealed with a red back filecard (even though some catalog pictures show Torch)

Now, does anyone have actual images of the brown mailer boxes that the catalog 3/6 pack figures came in?

Please let me know if you can be of assistance!

Thanks

Steven

stad
03-11-2006, 02:14 PM
Just thought a link to this (closed) auction might be relevant for this thread!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-GI-JOE-JC-PENNY-6194-CATALOGUE-SPECIAL-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ6041291465QQcategoryZ2467QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Boxed sample of one of these 5 packs!

stad
03-13-2006, 05:03 PM
Also, here's some better pics of the JC Penney's base that was being discussed earlier.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-missle-command-post_W0QQitemZ6042923054QQcategoryZ2468QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Lightfoot12345
03-14-2006, 05:15 PM
umm, i don't know if this is rgiht thread, but since every one keeps mentioning the filecards, i ave a red back cobra soldier filecard that has been cut, is there anyway to tell if this came from sears missile command, or a 3 pakc or anything? is it worth any more than the filecard of a carded figure? thanks

tarz_an2003
04-14-2006, 11:20 AM
Hey everyone,

Like I promised before, I recently took some pictures of a harder to find black-bordered file card with the red backside of my Zap figure that I acquired back in January. Is it me or are these the more rarer file cards that exists out there???

This file card has the year 1983 printed on it as well as being accompanied by a printed ASST. 6195. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated as I'd like to accurately catalogue and identify this particular file card in my file card project. I need accurate info if anybody has any clue as to what particular set or special limited edition packs that this file card may have been a part of at one point and time...

I also need help with these file cards too if anybody's willing to chip in more accurate info on these, so I can accurately catalogue and identify these in my file card project...



GRUNT white-borderd file card with the red backside (1983)
ROCK 'N ROLL white-bordered file card with the red backside (1983)
SHORT-FUZE white-bordered file card with the red backside (1983)
ZAP white-bordered file card with the red backside (1983)
Cobra [THE ENEMY] white-bordered file card with the red backside (1983)
Cobra Officer [THE ENEMY] white-bordered file card wth the red backside (1983)



They all have 1983 printed on them but for some reason in the archives it identifies some of these as being a part of a 1986 six packs or something later on, and various sorts of offers. I'm wondering if this is another case of something like the 1985 HEAVY METAL. I've currently got two variants of him and his 1991 file card with the incorrect code name of RAMPAGE, still had the 1985 print on it. Just wondering if it might be one of those type of errors or typos when creating these later issued and available file cards. I need help in clarifying these please guys, so any help is welcomed...

statesofeuphoria
04-14-2006, 12:14 PM
umm, i don't know if this is rgiht thread, but since every one keeps mentioning the filecards, i ave a red back cobra soldier filecard that has been cut, is there anyway to tell if this came from sears missile command, or a 3 pakc or anything? is it worth any more than the filecard of a carded figure? thanks

The figures that came from the missle command headquarters had bubbles attached to the cards so you would see where they were removed. Some reports have later figures bagged so it would still be hard to tell. I don't think the cobra soldier was available through very many offers like the officer was, so you may have a missle command one or one of the store multi packs.

keg_daddy
07-23-2006, 06:09 PM
I'm bumping this thread because I'm looking to figure out the figures that go with certain Asst. numbers.

I have started a very nice list of which Asst. numbers came with what figures on page 8. Please add on if you can!!!

tarz_an2003
12-07-2006, 02:59 PM
Not to stir the pot up any more than it already has been, but I just recently scored on some nice mail-aways that's still sealed inside it's original packaging! And I could use the help of anyone out there to figure out where these came from...



1982-83 Hawk (swivel arm) sealed in a bag which includes an uncut file card with the red-backing.
Picture A (http://i13.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/77/99/f489_1.JPG) is of the figure and the backside (glossy RED-BACKING) of the file card.

Picture B (http://i3.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/77/9b/2f7d_1.JPG) is of the frontside of the file card with the character's bio and picture.



1982-83 Clutch (swivel arm) sealed in a bag which includes an uncut file card with the red-backing.
Picture A (http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/7b/18/a0d6_1.JPG) same as above.

Picture B (http://i22.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/7b/18/a2a9_1.JPG) same as above.


Now the pictures are of very poor quality and I apologize for that in advance as I don't have a digi, BUT were the actual ones that the seller used from which I just recently won earlier this week off eBay. At the moment, these are unmarked according to Brent's (keg_daddy) unofficial list of characters that would include a precut file card with the red glossy backside. Both the baggies are marked "NOT FOR RESALE" and have a small adhesive sticker just above that that says [RECOMMENDED FOR AGES 5 AND UP].

On the frontside of the file card, the most bizarre thing which doesn't follow the consistent pattern that Brent has already pointed out to us with the others is the assortment #. It's printed 10001-Asst. on both file cards that came with the Hawk and Clutch that I just received in the mail today. It does, however, state that these were Made & Printed in Hong Kong and has the copyright date of 1984. And in the top right hand corner of both file cards, it has the Hasbro Toy Logo rather than your typical flag point.

Any help would be greatly appreciated guys, as we've got yet another mystery to unravel...


Sincerely
An (On)

statesofeuphoria
12-08-2006, 05:56 AM
I have a swivel arm Grand Slam like this that came with the silver version file card. I know several others have this particular GS as well. So far no one has been able to explain where they came from, at least to my knowledge.

thunt4
12-08-2006, 05:16 PM
Its either going to be a hasbro direct or part of the 10pack, I wil have to check the asst number. Keep in mind some have the not for resale sticker and some don't.