This is the Official 2006 Toy Fair thread

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Dan

I just saw the 2.5 " figures and the vehicles look unbelievable. I cant believe they are making a 2.5" line instead of doing the same thing with the 3.75" line. I didnt get to see the figures in person only in the new mastercollector newsletter. I would like to know if they are the same set up as the 8" or are they o ringed? Either way i cant believe they are doing this and leaving the us 3.75 guys living w/o anything.

I don't get it either. Why would Hasbro completely ignore the obvious? You would think a S6 3 3/4" line would make more sense than 2 1/2". Strange.

Rumor has it that some retailers refuse to sell 3 3/4" product because it might conflict with other toy lines that they sell in high-volume in a similar scale.

But fear not, Hasbro hasn't even shown off their Toy Fair booth yet. We’ll see lots more very soon, so stick around and check out our photo album at http://photos.yojoe.com/showgallery.php?cat=567 as we will have exclusive Toy Fair images and reports from our correspondent on-site soon!

Well after seeing the pictures, I'm even more excited about the Lady Jaye/Trooper 3 pack! Kinda disappointed in what I'm guessing is supposed to be Munita, But that Airtight more than makes up for it! :)

those look awesome

can't wait !

Oh, man - that jet is SICK!!! Nuts - now I need more ceiling space. :D
Thanks for the coverage so far, guys!

Wave4 or Wave5? Whatever wave is coming
these are the figures so far:

Airtight = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1841&cat=567

Night Viper = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1840&cat=567

Cobra Officer = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1842&cat=567

Cobra Female = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1843&cat=567
is this Munitia?

Outback? = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1844&cat=567
looks more like <insert hippie statement here>

Falcon = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1845&cat=567
wow, this is gonna be the biggest disappointment...

EDIT *added comic pack images*
Comic Packs
- Lady Jaye = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901
- Gas Mask Trooper = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1899

Oktober Guards
- Misha = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1835
- Gorky = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1834
- Dragonsky = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1833

I'm not especially impressed with anything. The next two comic packs are okay, what's up with Misha's giant hat? I hope Dragonsky has a helmet, but I suspect he will not. The Cobras in gas masks look a tad goofy, and I hope the final products at least have cobra symbols. Lady Jaye sort of looks like her character...I suppose. They did a decent job kitbashing Dragonsky. But I notice that once again, all the figures use recently seen parts with new heads. No recovered Funskool molds or anything.

Falcon has a nice head, but the body chosen doesn't work for me. Part of it's the "skirt", part of it's the fact the outfit was used for General Hawk (an Lt. in a General's outfit seem odd). Here's hoping for a comic pack Falcon someday.

Outback, at least they used Barrage's body. He looks a bit like a heavy metal bad reject.

Airtight? New parts?

Munitia, I expected a baroness body, but I thought they'd make her more interesting looking. Another chick who wears black leather. And a swim cap apparently. Not bad, the new arms are nice, but given Cobra's lack of female characters, something more dynamic was needed.

Cobra Officer, they did the lazy thing. Why'd they bother carding these? Just put them in a six pack and give 2 single card slots for more creative ideas.

Night Viper, not impressive, looks like a lazy custom. I think that's Kamakura's head on Sgt. Airborne, isn't it?

The other scales, not my cup of tea.

At least 3 3/4" fans still have something.

Maybe Im missing something, but is there no articulation on most of those figures or what?

Maybe Im missing something, but is there no articulation on most of those figures or what?

Not the 2.5" Sigma 6 ones

Outback is AWESOME. Oh man. I want to see the card art of that guy.

He's so cool I don't buy that he'd hang out with the likes of these comparatively nerdy Joes.

Good lord. Outback is my new one man Joe team.

The 2.5" figs look to be from the Attacktix (http://www.hasbro.com/attacktix/) game, currently only sold with Star wars figures, but later this year, they are adding Transformers, and apparently now, G.I.Joe.

Of course the 3 3/4" line is my first love but I am just glad there is ANYTHING out there right now with the G.I. Joe name on it. How depressing would it be if we didn't have any new items to talk about? Whatever scale the Joes take at least it will bring more collectors into the hobby.

Personally, I like the looks of some of the smaller S6 line and I look forward to seeing the toys in person.

Dan

Wow..after couple years of wanting a new Night viper..finally get it. It's okay..not something I would buy ton of. I like that Air Tight though.
Can't figure out what body mold or torso its from with Night Viper

Not the 2.5" Sigma 6 ones
Actually, some have old style rivet shoulders (though negated by the fixed lower bodies on them) or simple swivels.
http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FGI_Joe&pic=101_6222.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

You can see them on Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes. It almost looks like the basic figure assortment will be a mix of preposed and jointed, while the vehicle figures seem to have "neutral" poses with minor articulation

Did anyone bother to ask when DTC wave 3 will be available on Hasbrotoyshop.com

I'm happy with all the DTC stuff. But the cobra troppers with the gasmask look a little weird.

cant wait to see teh card art for the new DTC stuff. thats the main reason i like them

the 2.5" sigma stuff looks dumb. was hioping it would be articulated but its not

Oktober Guard comic pack: The heads are great! Misha is the best overall figure. Hopefully his hat is removable. That would rock! :) Looks like people will still need to get the con Dragonsky body and just do a head swap. Still the best comic pack by far (along with #21). Just imagine how amazing these figures could be if new bodies were made along with the heads!

Dragonsky: Lower legs are from DEF Mutt v3. Upper legs & waist are from Ice Cream Soldier/Shock Viper

Comic pack #44: Not digging the Gas Mask Trooper unless the mask/helmet is removable. Hopefully, Lady Jaye's hair is not as reddish as it appears to be in that pic
EDIT: here's the front view: http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901&cat=569


Airtight: Pretty good. Still don't like those "elbowless" arms though
Night Viper: Looks nice. Wish the helmet was properly fit
Cobra Officer: repaint
Munitia: I dig any female sculpt (eventhough there are only like 10 total different female body molds counting both old and new sculpts) :rolleyes:
Outback: Ugh. The incompatible Major Barrage volcano neck!
Falcon: OK, except for the skirt

HissTank has their Pics up now.

http://www.hisstank.com/images/v/Toyfair-2006-GI-Joe-Images/

2 Firebats and 2 Dragon Hawks. Very cool, even in the 2.5 configuration.

A note:

If the Attatix figures are truly interactive, then Hasbro is getting VERY daring with the cross-pollination of the brands it is responsible for marketing. I wonder how Hasbron convinced Lucasfilms to go ahead with the SW Transformers and then this attatix stuff. Say what you will about scale, Hasbro is at least trying to max out the possibilities with the 3 key toy brands.

i cant see why people arnt liking the gas troopers, those helmets are awsome, now if only they would release another blueshirt pack using those helmets (without the mask) and finally we get a decent arah lady jaye. as far as the single packs, i dont like new sculpts to begin with so we will leave it at that.

I'm so happy, all that stuff looks cool.

Well, my thoughts on what we've seen so far from Toy Fair for G.I.Joe:

The Oktober Guard set -- FINALLY the rest of Oktober Guard! As for the individuals...

Sgt. Misha -- jeez, did he pick up that sombrero in Sierra Gordo after they were finished with their mission down there or something? I know the hat he wears is KINDA weird -- as are the hats of the Spetznaz, but YEESH! Still, hat notwithstanding, it's an excellent figure.

Dragonsky -- Excellent! Not the parts I expected to see for the body (somehow I expected them to repaint Barricade), but not bad. I'm glad they didn't fudge on his admittedly rather garish color scheme, compared to the other Guards.

Lt. Gorky -- Oh, well, two out of three isn't bad. They blew this one. Decent headsculpt, but the uniform, while maybe open to a little interpretation in the comic book, I've always perceived as BLACK, not GREY, and talk about a dull choice for body parts. Really, it should've been a repainted Red Star (even if they've already used it for Brekhov, Stormavik, and part of Misha -- it still works).

Then there's Lady Jaye in her three pack. I like the head sculpt. As for the uniform color -- GHAAAA! MY EYES! :eek:

The gas-masked Cobra Troopers -- eh. Should've been BATs if they wanted to stick to the comic story properly. But of a stretch from that standpoint, but not bad figures, I suppose. If I get this set, and I probably will, it'll be because of Lady Jaye.

Still, from the look of these figures, I think what Hasbro put on display were hand-painted prototypes. Let us hope there were a FEW modifications between these and the final production figures, which I suspect have already been made.

I didn't see one thing in the single-carded figure line that was of interest to me. Granted, very few new-sculpts do to begin with, just on general principles. Munitia came close, but I doubt I'll get her. At first glance, I thought the Night-Viper was a new-sculpt Wet Suit -- and I wish he had been because that's one sorry Night-Viper. And don't get me started on that Outback trying to do his impression of Grizzly Adams or the Undertaker from WWE or whatever... :rolleyes:

Sigma 6 -- I really, really wonder if there's any chance in the world that some of those vehicles, especially the Firebat and the Dragonhawk, could accommodate 3-3/4" figures...

Firefly -- brother, looks like the Sigma Six universe's Firefly has spent a little too much time watching "Friday the 13th" movies...:D

I like the Night Ops Snake-Eyes.

As for Destro -- while I'm pleased that they've chosen to chrome-plate the head, what's up with those ears!? Fly, Dumbo, fly! :D

And honestly, I just think that cloth uniform segments on these figures just doesn't work that well. They're just a little too small to have it look good, in my opinion. You've sort of got me be 9" and up -- and until you hit 12" or so, preferably a superhero wearing spandex -- to get away with it. That coat on Destro looks silly.

Ultimately? I certainly see myself getting the Oktober Guard set -- washed out Gorky or no. As for much of anything else, we'll have to see. While I am pleased that Hasbro has not abandoned the 3-3/4" format, I don't see a lot here that I'm particularly inclined to add to my collection.

i cant see why people arnt liking the gas troopers, those helmets are awsome, now if only they would release another blueshirt pack using those helmets (without the mask) and finally we get a decent arah lady jaye. as far as the single packs, i dont like new sculpts to begin with so we will leave it at that.

I agree about the troopers and LJ! Now the only way to make the Troopers cooler is if their masks could come off as well :) The only draw back I'm seeing with them is I want a good sized army of them (6 or so) but I don't think I want 3 Lady Jaye's. Suppose I could trade the rest.

Also seems a bit odd to be looking at the Toyfair pics and seeing comic packs I already have :) and why do they have the bat 6 pack up there? Wasn't that released last year?

I agree about the troopers and LJ! Now the only way to make the Troopers cooler is if their masks could come off as well :) The only draw back I'm seeing with them is I want a good sized army of them (6 or so) but I don't think I want 3 Lady Jaye's. Suppose I could trade the rest.

Also seems a bit odd to be looking at the Toyfair pics and seeing comic packs I already have :) and why do they have the bat 6 pack up there? Wasn't that released last year?

I expect Hasbro to show old stuff. They did it last year too.
Nothing new at all on the Transformer side.
Lots of good stuff.
The 2 inch figures are disappointing.
Always have to wait until figures with new sculpts are released to see how they turn out.
First impressions...
Comic packs are always awesome. :D
Outback is BLAH! That waist has got to be destroyed.
Falcon looks OK.
Airtight looks sharp!
Night Viper ... eh... could have been better. I'll take Funskool ones over this one.
Munitia, hmmm worried that she has long legged syndrome.

Wow... didn't expect to see these tonight.

Falcon-Wow.... That is boring. I can't even defend this fig. Poor choice all around. The head will no doubt be going on a different body when I get it.

Airtight- Kind of cool. I was really hoping for a full helmet and a regular head underneath.

Outback- I'm glad my repainted Big Brawler theory/nightmare was wrong. I like what they were trying for with the fig... Eh... My favorite character.. I wanted something better. I do like the head though.

Night Viper- Interesting choice but....eh, I won't army build this one.

Cobra Officer- Again... not liking it.

Munita- I love the head sculpt.. and it looks like new arms. Kind of boring again. I have no sense of what her purpose is. He knife gun is kind of neat.. what's that other accessory?

Lady Jay- Truly awesome.

Gasmasked Soldier- Really cool. I might army build these guys a bit.

Dragonsky- Cool part choices.. I hope he gets a helmet. I like him.

Gorky- Amazing head sculpt. He's got a basic uniform in the comics so there's not anything that special they could do with it. Solid figure.

Misha- HOLY HOLY.... That's an awesome figure. This is PERFECT...okay.. almost perfect.. Snowjob arms.

Sigma 6 -- I really, really wonder if there's any chance in the world that some of those vehicles, especially the Firebat and the Dragonhawk, could accommodate 3-3/4" figures...



I don't know, looking at the new pics, I have to wonder if that Dragonhawk might have originally been made for the 3 3/4 figs, it looks really kind of upscaled when you see the little fig in the cockpit:

http://www.hisstank.com/images/v/Toyfair-2006-GI-Joe-Images/DSCF0042.JPG.html

I agree about the troopers and LJ! Now the only way to make the Troopers cooler is if their masks could come off as well :) The only draw back I'm seeing with them is I want a good sized army of them (6 or so) but I don't think I want 3 Lady Jaye's. Suppose I could trade the rest.

Also seems a bit odd to be looking at the Toyfair pics and seeing comic packs I already have :) and why do they have the bat 6 pack up there? Wasn't that released last year?

ill trade or buy your extra lady jays when the time comes:)
and yes if they has removable masks, then they could release them as a six pack also so people could have regular troopers also (i love that helmet so much :D)

There weren't any well informed hasbro personnel in the joe area when i was there. i even tried to push the rumors that TRU is going to be carrying S6 and got totally shot down (i am hoping that this lady was wrong, seeing as i heard it was a fact). The Dragonhawk was, without a doubt, the most impressive new vehicle I have seen for the joe line in the last 10 years. It totally reminds me of the old Kenner megaforce line, they had some very similar VTOLs. It definitely looks like a 33/4" figure will fit in the front cockpit, but the rear may be a little tight. The 2.5" line is NOT Attacktix or even close to it.

I am just happy to get a few cool Joes and a playset for $7-10 bucks. the 2.5" line is gonna rock out.

3-3/4" figs won't fit in the new 2.5 line. Hit and Run tried to do a test flight in the dragon, and the canopy will not go down over his head:

http://www.joebattlelines.com/s6c/toys/toyfair_06_gallery/2in/images/dragonhawk-4_jpg.jpg

big bummer. :(

Y'know, when I look closely at the Dragonhawk, I can't help but think it's a cross of two truly great aerial vehicle designs: the USCM Cheyenne dropship from Aliens, and the Orca fighter from Command and Conquer. So far I think I like it, but I can't say for certain. I'm curious now to see how it will carry vehicles, because I feel like I read that it'll be able to carry the Vamp.

3-3/4" figs won't fit in the new 2.5 line. Hit and Run tried to do a test flight in the dragon, and the canopy will not go down over his head:

http://www.joebattlelines.com/s6c/toys/toyfair_06_gallery/2in/images/dragonhawk-4_jpg.jpg

big bummer. :(Yeah, i got that pic too...And I have a feeling he can be persuaded to fit in the front seat...

anybody know if the Airtight figure has a removable helmet, and has there been any pictures of him with it off?

Are we looking at a time frame of when this stuff should be available?

Y'know, when I look closely at the Dragonhawk, I can't help but think it's a cross of two truly great aerial vehicle designs: the USCM Cheyenne dropship from Aliens, and the Orca fighter from Command and Conquer. So far I think I like it, but I can't say for certain. I'm curious now to see how it will carry vehicles, because I feel like I read that it'll be able to carry the Vamp.
:D The Orca was the first thing I saw too! Love the minigun, and I'm still hopeful about the forward cockpit being compatible

Are we looking at a time frame of when this stuff should be available?
DTC wave 4 should be out in the next couple months, if current trends hold true

The 2.5 should be on the shelves in late August/early September when the stores do their toy resets, though they might delay them into October like what Hasbro did with the original S6 line

Well if we're gonna complain about anything it may as well be important. Like the fact that we STILL don't have a comic-accurate version of Lady J. Take a look at the toy

http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901&cat=567

compared to her comic appearances

http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe57.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe44.shtml

A T shirt, Hasbro??? Where's the plunging neck line :D

Well if we're gonna complain about anything it may as well be important. Like the fact that we STILL don't have a comic-accurate version of Lady J. Take a look at the toy

http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901&cat=567

compared to her comic appearances

http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe57.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe44.shtml

A T shirt, Hasbro??? Where's the plunging neck line :D
Probably lost to the forces of political correctness and sensitivity towards women or something. Nothing a little flesh tone paint can't remedy.

Be glad we're getting anything halfway decent out of the 3-3/4" scale in traditional-style figures, really.

Speaking of plunging necklines and the one story where Lady Jaye got into a bit of trouble for that, in Trucial Abysmia, I think it was, who'd like to see the comic sets last long enough for Hasbro to try to do a figure of Cool Breeze?

Well if we're gonna complain about anything it may as well be important. Like the fact that we STILL don't have a comic-accurate version of Lady J. Take a look at the toy

http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901&cat=567

compared to her comic appearances

http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe57.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe44.shtml

A T shirt, Hasbro??? Where's the plunging neck line :D


Those are unfinished products, notice the Cobra Officers don't have Cobra symbols, lets just hope that they don't paint it as a t shirt, and if they do, we'll blame you for giving them the idea :)

Well, looks like I'll definitely be picking up the Airtight and Outback DTCs, as well as the Oktober Guard 3-pack. I'm pleased Hasbro decided to make Dragonsky available to collectors once again, being I'm not willing to shell out $90+ for the Convention set. I'm not digging the old GVC Flint backpack they decided on for Outback though, may use one of my old RAH Outback's accessories to gear him up.

Wow. I am terribly dissapointed by Outback and especially Falcon. The General Abernathy body with a poorly-sculpted head just DOES NOT cut it.

Hasbro, if you can hear me, please change this figure before release. A Green Beret is all about a tough guy out in the field, not some stiff in a dress uniform.

Please, Hasbro - Falcon deserves a MUCH BETTER figure.

At least the Oktober Guard pack is nice.

Does anyone notice the Sigma 6 VAMP's distinct resemblance to a certain easily-flipped 4WD vehicle driven by the Master Chief?


Honesty, and I'm sad to say this - but (aside from the Oktober Guard pack) the most exicting thing I've seen here are the Sigma 6 2.5" vehicles. The Firebat and Dragonhawk are awesome. God, I hope 3 3/4" figures will fit in their cockpits.

If not, Hasbro you should be ashamed of yourselves for introducing yet ANOTHER new scale. Why do you seek to spite your best fans?

Does anyone notice the Sigma 6 VAMP's distinct resemblance to a certain easily-flipped 4WD vehicle driven by the Master Chief?

And does anyone notice the resemblance between the Firebat and the human-piloted fighters from Stealth?

Doesn't really bug me, just a similarity I noticed. I'll buy it anyway. :D

Did anyone gather any information on DTC Wave 3? I.E. When is HTS going to sell them? Thanks.

Hiss Tank has pictures of some painted figures.

http://www.hisstank.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=31&sid=72268b2d8ee8cba793e190566d737c94

Outback has tatoos?!

Gasmask Trooper looks somewhat better. Head is still a bit big.

Gasmask Trooper looks somewhat better. Head is still a bit big.

I disagree. I mean, he's wearing a gas mask and a helmet for heaven's sake, those things are not small!

What I can't stand are figures that are supposed to be wearing a helmet (VvV Destro, Wild Weasel, etc.) and the head is tiny, or maybe the size it should be without a helmet!

Anybody know if the gasmask trooper's helmet is removable?
I wouldnt mind grabbing half a dozen of these guys!! :D

Anybody know if the gasmask trooper's helmet is removable?
I wouldnt mind grabbing half a dozen of these guys!! :D

True! That would make it so much better, especially any head size complaints! I too would have to grab several it that is the case.

A new Hasbro PR Rep and a SUPER GREAT REGULAR GUY took me through yesterday a.m. has a long list (15+) of my questions and queries on the newer DTC waves, and will get back to me with specific answers on Thur or Fri of this week.

Re: The query as to whether the 3 3/4" figures can fit into the 2.5" vehicle cockpits: NO CHANCE. Maybe their torsos, but... NO CHANCE.

I was pretty impressed with the new DTC and Sigma Six product, and asked about sales for the DTC items as well. Let's see if we get answers... I'm optimistic.

-- MWB

I like the pictures, some of the figures are a little blah, but at least G I Joe is dead.

Is everyone sure that the guy in the beret is Falcon, because he really looks like Stormavik to me.

I like the pictures, some of the figures are a little blah, but at least G I Joe is dead.

Is everyone sure that the guy in the beret is Falcon, because he really looks like Stormavik to me.

I was kinda thinking along those lines too, but someone already identified the October Guards, so that pretty much left him to be Falcon. Too bad, considering he has a grey beret, and should have a green one.

They have sigma six 8 inch and now 2.5 inch. Anyone else scared? Are they trying to figure out if there is a market for these items? Is this a plan to replace the 3 3/4 all together?


The sigma 2.5 are they the same size as the M.A.S.K. figures that where popular in the 80's?

Airtight = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1841&cat=567 (Decent figure)

Night Viper = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1840&cat=567 (As much as I was looking forward to this, this is the most disappointing. It needs to have a darker green, and more black)

Cobra Officer = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1842&cat=567 (Decent)

Munitia = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1843&cat=567 (At least it's a new female figure)

Outback = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1844&cat=567 (I couldn't care less about this fig)

Falcon = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1845&cat=567 (A Grey Beret ??? A Grey Beret ??? WTF ??? It NEEDS to be GREEN !!!)

Comic Packs
Lady Jaye = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1901 (Hair looks too reddish)

Gas Mask Trooper = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1899 (This is actually my favorite fig of the whole thing, but I don't care for the yellow. I know it's comic book accurate, but I still hate the yellow.)

Oktober Guards:
Misha = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1835 (We don't need no stinkin' badges)

Gorky = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1834 (This is my second favorite fig, but the grey needs to be darker, IMO)

Dragonsky = http://photos.yojoe.com/showphoto.php?photo=1833 (Where's the helmet ???)

is munitia supposed to black or white? i have always wondered why they had never made a black female figure!

Folks, we really need to do what we can to get Hasbro to fix this Falcon figure. Making a good Falcon should be a no-brainer. I don't really see how Hasbro could have mucked this up so bad.

Now hopefully the color issues will be fixed before the figure leaves the prototype stage. But the mold choice issue is just as bad.


Hasbro, if you want to know what a new-sculpt Falcon show look like, then look right here!!!

http://www.brocklee.com/comic/gijoe/BROCKLEE_FALCON.jpg


Hasbro - you've already got all the parts you need:

I would suggest VvV Wave 6 Snow Wolf's torso, DTC Barrel Roll's arms and legs, and a new head sculpt (one that does NOT have a floopy French painter's hat, but a real beret).

Accessories would be even easier: DTC Barrel Roll's vest and pistol, Hard Drive's backback, the excellent G36 rifle, and the shotgun and XM312 machinegun you already have slated to come with the DTC Falcon.


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Folks, we really need to do what we can to get Hasbro to fix this Falcon figure. Making a good Falcon should be a no-brainer. I don't really see how Hasbro could have mucked this up so bad.

Now hopefully the color issues will be fixed before the figure leaves the prototype stage. But the mold choice issue is just as bad.

Hasbro, if you want to know what a new-sculpt Falcon show look like, then look right here!!!

http://www.brocklee.com/comic/gijoe/BROCKLEE_FALCON.jpg

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While I think that is an excellent idea, I don't really have much of a problem with the figure itself. I just can not understand the color of the beret, that's what throws me. I mean, he's not a Ranger, he's a frickin' green beret!! That should be self explanatory! As far as the mold, it looks pretty much like an army uniform, including the "skirt" (that's how BDU's fit) that most people complain about, and the coloring is close enough to the new uniform the army has (ACU's) that I can justify it.
Sure, it could have been better, but you can probably always say that about most any figure.

While I think that is an excellent idea, I don't really have much of a problem with the figure itself. I just can not understand the color of the beret, that's what throws me. I mean, he's not a Ranger, he's a frickin' green beret!! That should be self explanatory! As far as the mold, it looks pretty much like an army uniform, including the "skirt" (that's how BDU's fit) that most people complain about, and the coloring is close enough to the new uniform the army has (ACU's) that I can justify it.
Sure, it could have been better, but you can probably always say that about most any figure.


The problem is that the sculpted jacket torso with long sleeves just looks to "uptight" for a for a rough-and-tumble behind enemy lines character like Falcon (I personally have never had any problems with the rubber skirts, though). Maybe some webgear and rolled-up sleeves would help, but as-is, he just doesn't look "right." I know that's a hard thing to explain, but I'm sure plenty of folks know what I mean.

We can only hope that beret issue will be fixed before this figure goes to production (these pics are obviously of a hand-painted prototype).

Heck even the Sonic Fighter Falcon figure from the 1990's had a proper GREEN beret.

It looks like somebody was watching A Bridge Too Far right before they put Falcon together. He looks like one of the British Commandos. Not a bad look, but not Falcon.
I like Agent Orange's picture of Falcon, but without the pads on his forearms.

The Airtight looks like a good figure but I can't justify getting him. You see, I also think 85 Airtight is a good figure.....the two are almost exactly the same, just different proportions. Same deal with the new Low Light. I just don't know why I would need it. (BTW, I can imagine right now Hasbro completely repainting that mold, part for part, and calling him Barbecue).
The rest, to me, are text book ho-hum action figures.
I will get the Octobe Guard, of course. Have to complete my team (so what if Dragionski's got no helmet. He didn't have one in the comic did he?). Also, I'll probably get the Lady J/gas mask Cobra pack (despite the earlier disappointment I expressed with LJ's T-shirt :) ) Call me crazy but I like Joes with big heads. Something about it just reminds me of vintage figures. Heck, I'd take a vintage "big head" Han Solo any day :D

We don't know yet if Dragonsky has a helmet or not. A couple pics showed figs which were not finished and so it is not unreasonable to think that everything shown is not the completed final product

I'm still doing a head swap with the con Dragonsky though ;)

I was hoping Airtight would be unmasked... that doesn't appear to be the case. It looks like his helmet comes off, but that he has a mask underneath that doesn't. The Lady Jaye figure has a cool head, but I'm also disappointed with the body, never liked the original's body. Even though Munitia is almost the same as the VvsV Baroness except for the head, she may be the only one I purchase. We'll see though, I may change my mind again as I have several times already.

Where's all the reports from Toy Fair, sure the pictures are very cool to see, but I want reports from people who were there, qustions answered, more questions raised! So far I've seen a report about the sigma 6 line and that's it!

From all the gloom and doom guesswork before Toy Fair about the 3 3/4" line being cancelled let me just say thank you Hasbro for not cancelling the DTC line. I'll bet sales are not as strong as Hasbro would like for the DTC line but it is still continuing so let us all be thankful for that.

For those guys that don't seem to like anything they have seen at Toy Fair let me ask you--would you rather the line were cancelled? My philosophy is even the vintage-only collectors should be glad the line is continuing because that will hopefully bring in new collectors that will eventually branch off into buying vintage figures, thus maintaining or even increasing the market for vintage figures.

I wasn't collecting Joes during the hiatus from 1994-97 but that must have been a depressing time for most collectors and probably only the most hardcore collectors stayed in the hobby. I would hate to see that happen again so soon after I started collecting Joes (I started in Feb of 2004).


Dan

First off, I think that the new Falcon is impressive, really. It's a good look, and it's unique. Personally, I would be very upset if it was too close to his definitive 1987 look - if I want a 1987 Falcon, I buy a 1987 Falcon.

As for the coverage, as you all saw on the front page, very little information was given out beyond the press-statements that the Hasbro guides were given. Mark lucked out and got a good escort, and a big thank you for posting what info you got Mark.

Personally, Toy Fair is nice in the fact that it gives up SOME sort of news to discuss during these down and quiet months, but I honestly don't expect any real news beyond Master Collector's Convention set until the time of the convention. That's when the real news breaks.

! As far as the mold, it looks pretty much like an army uniform, including the "skirt" (that's how BDU's fit) that most people complain about,
yes, thats how BDUs fit but they could mold it onto the waist piece, look at the '87 falcon's waist piece. On the new falcon figure it looks like a skirt, the bottom part of BDUs are tighter to the body and not as long...

Who is Munitia? Is she from the devils due comics?

yes, thats how BDUs fit but they could mold it onto the waist piece, look at the '87 falcon's waist piece. On the new falcon figure it looks like a skirt, the bottom part of BDUs are tighter to the body and not as long...



Really? You must have different BDU's than the ones I wear to work all the time...

From all the gloom and doom guesswork before Toy Fair about the 3 3/4" line being cancelled let me just say thank you Hasbro for not cancelling the DTC line. I'll bet sales are not as strong as Hasbro would like for the DTC line but it is still continuing so let us all be thankful for that.

For those guys that don't seem to like anything they have seen at Toy Fair let me ask you--would you rather the line were cancelled? My philosophy is even the vintage-only collectors should be glad the line is continuing because that will hopefully bring in new collectors that will eventually branch off into buying vintage figures, thus maintaining or even increasing the market for vintage figures.

I wasn't collecting Joes during the hiatus from 1994-97 but that must have been a depressing time for most collectors and probably only the most hardcore collectors stayed in the hobby. I would hate to see that happen again so soon after I started collecting Joes (I started in Feb of 2004).


Dan

Amen to that Dan! I appreciate Hasbro continuing the line. And I actually like the new 3 3/4" products. I only collect Joe so I don't know how other toy line fans act, but the negativity expressed here is surprising to me.

For Falcon, I think they should of went with the Rollbar v.1 body.
http://www.yojoe.com/action/04/rollbar.shtml
Then added in the VvV Snake Eyes webgear.
http://www.yojoe.com/action/05/images/weapons/snakeeyes1.jpg

For Falcon, I think they should of went with the Rollbar v.1 body.
http://www.yojoe.com/action/04/rollbar.shtml
Then added in the VvV Snake Eyes webgear.
http://www.yojoe.com/action/05/images/weapons/snakeeyes1.jpg

Agreed. That would have been much better, maybe I'll have to customize one myself.

Has anyone else been wondering when we are gonna see Scarlet or Baroness for Sig6?

Has anyone else been wondering when we are gonna see Scarlet or Baroness for Sig6?

The official word is that not to expect a Sigma 6 Baroness or Scarlett figures, mainly it's due to the scale of the figures - it's impossible to make a boys-toy of a female character and have it be seen as anything but a fashion doll. Just like G.I.Jane from 1966, it suffered because it WAS basically a fashion doll - same thing with the 1998 G.I.Jane helicopter pilot/Airborne figures. Not exactly the best track record for any scale over 5 inches.

Thanks for the info Red Claw. Glad I found out before I started picking up more. I guess I could try to customize them. Probably be extremely hard to find the right scale and similar articulation though.

That's freakin crap!!!!!!!!!

make them a convention item then!

Actually, if Habro really wanted to make some cash off of us, what they could do is make Scarlett and Baroness and do a dual pack for like $40 and make it an exclusive. Heck, I would pay probably $70 for them two. At least with the two there would be some room for us to custom other characters. For the past two days I have been looking for similar type 8" or 7" figures to make them myself.

I hope this years convention will supass all the others!! Hasbro leads in the right direction so far.