Hey:Guys,

So without getting into too much detail, I've come across a goldmine of older (1982-1986) Gi joe sealed Moc and Misb items. The guy I have been talking to says he has connections to get multiples of almost every vehicle from 1982-1989. For all I know there might be cases of the stuff.

The awesome thing is he told me he is pricing things based on Lee's Price guide which made me nervous until I realized that the guide he was using must be over 5 years old because on average he charges $40-$50 for mint on mint card 1984 series Gi joes. I mean all of us sealed Gi Joe collectors know that the majority of the prices in price guides are way off to begin with.

I mean try getting a: fang, skyhawk, claw, asp for $30 or less which is what they book for in teh current Lee's Guide. I am hopefully going to be getting together with this dealer in a week or two and the worst part of all of this is raising enough cash to buy as much as possible. I'm worried $3,000 may not be enough to buy a crap load which is what I would like to do.

So what about my predicament? I mean if you had an opportunity like this and knew you couldn't raise a huge amount of cash because your a common working man like myself, wouldn't it get to you? I know $3,000 is a good amount of money, but I have collector friends who can lay down $10,000 and not blink an eye. Man I wish I had that kind of cash.

Any Opinions???
Thanks

Hey:Guys,

So without getting into too much detail, I've come across a goldmine of older (1982-1986) Gi joe sealed Moc and Misb items. The guy I have been talking to says he has connections to get multiples of almost every vehicle from 1982-1989. For all I know there might be cases of the stuff.

The awesome thing is he told me he is pricing things based on Lee's Price guide which made me nervous until I realized that the guide he was using must be over 5 years old because on average he charges $40-$50 for mint on mint card 1984 series Gi joes. I mean all of us sealed Gi Joe collectors know that the majority of the prices in price guides are way off to begin with.

I mean try getting a: fang, skyhawk, claw, asp for $30 or less which is what they book for in teh current Lee's Guide. I am hopefully going to be getting together with this dealer in a week or two and the worst part of all of this is raising enough cash to buy as much as possible. I'm worried $3,000 may not be enough to buy a crap load which is what I would like to do.

So what about my predicament? I mean if you had an opportunity like this and knew you couldn't raise a huge amount of cash because your a common working man like myself, wouldn't it get to you? I know $3,000 is a good amount of money, but I have collector friends who can lay down $10,000 and not blink an eye. Man I wish I had that kind of cash.

Any Opinions???
Thanks

Give him my information :D

Take out a loan asap! lol Or see if he takes credit card.

Hey:Guys,

So without getting into too much detail, I've come across a goldmine of older (1982-1986) Gi joe sealed Moc and Misb items. The guy I have been talking to says he has connections to get multiples of almost every vehicle from 1982-1989. For all I know there might be cases of the stuff.

The awesome thing is he told me he is pricing things based on Lee's Price guide which made me nervous until I realized that the guide he was using must be over 5 years old because on average he charges $40-$50 for mint on mint card 1984 series Gi joes. I mean all of us sealed Gi Joe collectors know that the majority of the prices in price guides are way off to begin with.

I mean try getting a: fang, skyhawk, claw, asp for $30 or less which is what they book for in teh current Lee's Guide. I am hopefully going to be getting together with this dealer in a week or two and the worst part of all of this is raising enough cash to buy as much as possible. I'm worried $3,000 may not be enough to buy a crap load which is what I would like to do.

So what about my predicament? I mean if you had an opportunity like this and knew you couldn't raise a huge amount of cash because your a common working man like myself, wouldn't it get to you? I know $3,000 is a good amount of money, but I have collector friends who can lay down $10,000 and not blink an eye. Man I wish I had that kind of cash.

Any Opinions???
Thanks

3 Thoughts
1) Spread the wealth and let him parcel out a little here.
2) Get the coin through some means and pay it back by selling the stuff you don't "need" as much. You'll come out ahead and still have everything you want.
3) Have him do it for you in doses so you can spread out the financial pain.

PM Sent!!!

PM sent. I would take out a loan at a payday loan place. Then put what you do not want on Ebay with reasonable BIN. It will sell quick and you will make a profit.
Chris

Hey:Guys,

Just thought I would update you on the gi joe stuff. I just heard from the guy and we are getting together in about two weeks to set up a deal. The guy is going to get a load of more unopened stuff and then we'll deal. Can you imagine it? A load of unopened Gi Joe items plus what he currently has (80-90 carded items 1982-1986)? I can hardly wait to see what shows up. If any of you have want lists and know what you might pay for the items, please let me know and I'll keep in touch if those items come in.

It's a Great Month to be a Collector!!!!

Take Care
Zartanmaniac

Sending you a PM.

Any updates? You are seeing the products before laying down coin first, right?

pm sent. wish i could help with a big check

Please let me know if he has any of the things I PM'ed you about. I sent you my price.

PM Sent, thanks!!

If you are looking for buyers, I will buy it all. But, I would need pictures of them. This sounds too good to be true.

Hey:Guys,

Yes I will of course see what the guy has before buying. I have no idea what will come up though I know he said on the phone he had a bunch of 1983-1985 items Moc/Misb. When I talked to him recently, I told him that I collect mostly Misb items, but if the Carded stuff is priced right, I will buy some. I may keep a few of the rarer Moc items or toys I had as a kid, but most of them will be resold on ebay or yojoe. On the phone, the guy said everything was in mint shape, so I'll just have to see myself.

Either way-it's a great opportunity to add some unopened items to my gi joe collection.

I will keep in touch.
Zartanmaniac

Zartanmaniac, have you been to see what this guy has yet? It's been about 2 weeks!

Where are these items coming from?
Why are they "old store stock"?
Does this guy have anything to do with the items other than having connections to other people who have the items?
Why would this guy or his connections be willing to sell the items for less than what they could get on the open market?

Hey:

Thanks for the questions. I have to say they seemed just a tad accusatory though. Just so you know "Old Store Stock" is usually anything from sealed cases to a buyer who bought a store's leftover stock from back in the day. I would also say that it could be a buyer who bought stuff off the shelves awhile back and has alot of it saved up.

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone on this planet knows the true worth of eighties toys. Alot of older collectors that collected the 1950's toys have no respect for the great toy lines of the eighties. So your argument about the value of these is pointless. I have made very cheap deals on Ebay of all places and you would think that those putting things on Ebay would know their value wouldn't you? The answer is: there are alot of people out there who simply don't care enough to know.

I was at a garage sale a couple of years ago and they had a complete jetfire in super mint condition. I saw the toy had a $2 price tag and was ecstatic. I went over to the lady and was ready to pay immediately. She came out with "that $2 price tag is wrong, we know what that's really worth." She then told me it would be $3, not two. I was laughing inside as I said "I'll take a chance on it for $3." I made an easy $200 off that item and could not believe how she let it go for that low.

Another thing to factor in is: I live in a region of New York State where the economy is horrible and buyers rarely pay much for anything. This used to always help me at shows because I could show up at 12-1 and all the sealed stuff would still be sitting there waiting for me.

Thanks
Zartanmaniac

Ok, I must have read pass the part where you let us know if/what you got from this guy and how things are going with it???

Thanks for the questions. I have to say they seemed just a tad accusatory though.

Thanks for your answer. I wouldn't use the word accusatory to describe the questions. Suspicious would be a better word. Just be careful.

When will you need money. I would like to buy some items.

Hey:Guys,

I'm getting together with the guy Saturday if everything works out. My biggest problem is rasing the cash right now. I have applied for a loan and will see how that turns out. I also have a friend that said he would loan me $1,200-$1,500 if I couldn't find the money elsewhere. But I really don't like asking friends for money. A deal of this nature might force me to rethink that.
I'll keep you guys updated.

Thanks
Zartanmaniac

In all seriousness, I would not go meet some guy I didn't know somewhere with thousands of dollars in cash in my pockets. He probably would not accept a check, but you can figure something out. I wouldn't go alone with or without cash.

Hey:Greenfirefly,

I have no idea where you live at, but I have no problem meeting with dealers and spending thousands of dollars on stuff. Are you a misb Gi joe collector? The reason I ask is because when I got serious about buying sealed gi joe stuff at toy shows, I always took at least $800 to a show. Ironically, when I had the cash, there were alot less things available.

I'm not sure if I specified this, but when I called the dealer I realized I knew him from previous shows so he's not a complete stranger. The funny thing was a long time ago I asked him if he had any sealed Gi joe stuff and he said he had a friend that had tons of it, but was pretty stingy about selling it. So it makes sense that some 5-6 years later the friend has decided to sell.

I'll Keep You Guys Posted

P.S.-And thanks for the concern.

sent you an email on what i am wanting to buy

zartanmaniac:

I obviously live in Pennsylvania. With very little research, you could see an aerial picture of my house on Google. I do not collect vintage boxed vehicles. Best of luck.

Are some of the things you have on Ebay right now what you bought this weekend?

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Contrary to popular belief, not everyone on this planet knows the true worth of eighties toys. Alot of older collectors that collected the 1950's toys have no respect for the great toy lines of the eighties. So your argument about the value of these is pointless. I have made very cheap deals on Ebay of all places and you would think that those putting things on Ebay would know their value wouldn't you? The answer is: there are alot of people out there who simply don't care enough to know.

Absolutely true. The guy I used to work for just bought a vintage Barbie (ponytail #2 or something) from a woman. She called and told him that if he wasn't interested in it (they were trading phone calls back and forth) then she was going to THROW THEM OUT so hurry up and call back.

Long story short, he bought it for $50.00 and it sold for over $5,000!

I just now noticed this thread. After reading through it just has a lot in it that screams "scam" to me. Not by you ZartainManiac, but by the the guy that supposedly has all these "connections" to stuff that happens to be exactly what you are looking for. You said you arn't going to pay for anything without seeing it first and that is good. But at the same time someone mentioned showing up someplace with thousands in you pocket. If you don't know who you are dealing with, you could really be putting yourself into a dangerous situation. Worst case scenario, you take out loans for money, lose it all and have no product to show for it.

All I am saying is be really cautious with this deal. It sounds too good to be true. There are a lot of people on this board any many others that really do have connections and none of them have had a connection like the one you reported. If they don't have them, how exactly does this guy have them? Don't meet this guy with money in your pocket. Leave it at home save maybe $50. If he really does have stuff, buy something and come back for the rest later. If he tries to put pressure on you to show up with all the money, then there is definately a problem.

How did it go? It has been three days and we are dieing to find out what you got.
Thanks,
Chris

I hope it turned out the way he wanted to,If we dont hear from him in a few day..Maybe someone might want to email to see if hes ok.

There were about 4 or 5 things he put on Ebay and then took them off. Where are ya man?

There were about 4 or 5 things he put on Ebay and then took them off. Where are ya man?

Yeah, I saw that too... he had the Mobil Command Center sealed... then poof gone.

There were about 4 or 5 things he put on Ebay and then took them off. Where are ya man?

Yeah, here are the auction listings. They were not sold, he pulled them.

http://search-completed.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQrdZ0QQsassZzartanma niac

Highly unusual. Like I said, there was something too good to be true about all this.

I just had one question, if it was old store stock why do all the boxes have a "good amount of wear" like he said in his descriptions? Is this typical for old store stock to have alot of wear? If so what would it be from? Just curious.

It depends, but from my experience items which have been factory sealed in assortment cases for many years do receive wear due to numerous different age and handling related factors.

Recently I purchased several case fresh old stock 1980s Kenner stuff and the boxes had wear. Slight tears actually, due to the boxes' tapes degrading and sticking to each other.

I doubt its the same stuff. He collects a lot of mib stuff as well so I am sure those were some extras.

But the guy answered another one of my questions in another thread, why can't he give us the dish on what did (or didn't) happen? Inquiring minds want to know. C'mon dude, let us know something.

Hey Guys:

Sorry for not responding sooner. I did pretty well with the deal. I only ended up spending around $1,200 or so. I will have to get back to you guys on what exactly I have that I may be selling. All in all, it was a worthwhile deal.

Some of the items you may have seen on Ebay were definitely not old store stock, but he gave me a good price, so I bought them with the purpose of reselling them. I made a quick $1,200 in profit just off those 4 to 5 auctions, so why complain? I don't usually end auctions early, but a got an offer I couldn't refuse. I also sold a Misb Night Raven that I got free from a friend for $400 or so. Makes me cry seeing that Night Raven go for over $1,200 on ebay.

The great thing about this guy is he has connections to get alot more stuff. Sometimes all it takes is for that first deal and a seller knows to contact you first before anyone else. This guy has a connection with an older guy who was a buyer for Sears stores from the late 70's to early nineties. What this means is: they guy has a book of a hundred pages or more filled with stuff he bought for Sears in those years. I can't wait to buy some of that stuff!!!

Take Care
Jeremy