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Cancellations, delays, and the final convention figure named!

where?
i can't find the last fig on that page at all

It's in the newsletter, you have to be a member to access it.

That is SO COOL!!! I won't ruin the surprise, but I never would have guessed that character. Now I may need to buy a set.

TELL ME NOW!!!!

Who is it, Cousin Clem?

Actually, I'm more concerned about cancellations than who the new figure is. Are they cancelling anything major, like the new comic 3-packs? Please Lord let it not be so. :eek: :eek:

They do not show the fig. picure. They mention the ID in the 2nd paragraph and show the full box cover.

ok i havent joined yet.
are you gonna tell us or what?

They mention that the 3rd wave of Mission Disks, 12" Beachhead and Venomous Maximous (as well as all future 12" VvV Joes). The 3rd 3 pack w/comic was pushed back to July.

What a cool figure! I had a feeling it would be a vehicle driver...now I wonder if it will be complete with the TF version of his vehicle?!? :eek: How much would that be? $1000??? :D

What was that about the 3rd wave of mission disk figures? Are those cancelled or just delayed?

Could you imagine the scalping on THAT? I can't wait, now..Almost makes up for the in-bred Zartan clone cousins...

Sweet, Would not have guessed that figure for the third Joe.

3rd wave of mission Disks "Will not ship this year" They were pulled from the line. It does not say whether they will be put back in down the road or not, but I would gather not. Hopefully the figures will be packaged in a different format. The mission disks seem to have been a dud here, so I am guessing the orders were low for wave 3.

I really want to get my hands on an O-Ring version of the Joe Vs Cobra Storm Shadow, I hope he pops up somewhere down the road smile.gif

hay jeff i think only 1 person guessed it in your contest

the mission disks are a joke, glad they pulled them.
now for a wider release of the single cards!!!!!!

ok now i am weirded out .
their description for the army builder pack is possibly misleading or incorrect.

i guess i would be more impressed if i like the tiger force. strange pick to make to the convention set though. this whole set has been a major let down. from the lazy thought of dreadnoks that look like hulk hogan to this new choice for the convention.

I have always loved the Tiger Force set. Yeah, they are goofy and make better bulletstoppers than sneaky jungle warfare agents, but they were so much fun as a kid. I can live without the "Cletus Clan" but I am sucked in with the TF. Now, what will the vehicles be?

Bengal tigers with saddles and rocket launchers mounted to their backs

If they were VvV, I would not be surprised!

WWWwwwooooooooooohoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! :D

What a cool figure! I had a feeling it would be a vehicle driver...now I wonder if it will be complete with the TF version of his vehicle?!?


From this reference I am guessing ????
Tiger Force Mirage with his sucky hovercraft named the Tiger wart!

Just tell us already. Your killing me!

am i the only one that is completely bummed by who the last joe was?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by firemanrh:
hay jeff i think only 1 person guessed it in your contest<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

2 people did (but only one person won if the contest is still a go)

No way I could win

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original post:

Jeff Bohn
Administrator
Member # 1655
posted March 14, 2004 06:47 PM
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Here are the list of all the guesses in the order that they were guessed. Only one member guessed Mutt (statesofeuphoria) although Rasputin mentioned him also, but not as one of his guesses.
Winner will be announced when the other Tiger Force member is announced!

Muskrat & Tracker - thebigzakbowski
Shipwreck & Dial Tone - starrcommand
Gung Ho & Lowlight - toyboy
Torpedo & Cover Girl - Darko
Hardtop & Barbecue - bearcatcc
Tunnel Rat & Wet-Suit - Patrick A. Riley
Shipwreck & Torpedo - natedogg
Gung Ho & Shipwreck - TheReverend
Law & Short Fuze - Icebreaker
Tunnel Rat & Psyche Out - rageseven
Blizzard & Barbecuq - Joeczar
Hi-tec & Hard Drive - Fireflyanon
Muskrat & Outback - Rasputin
Gung Ho & Spirit - gargoyle
Snake Eyes & Duke - Serpentor's Bodyguard
Lifeline & Tripwire - gyiel marlok
kamikura & law - yo-man2
Torpedo & Footloose - Propadeutic
Recoil & Iceberg - Crimson Viper Commander
Depth Charge & Dart - yojoeshow
Torpedo & Pathfinder - Night Viper
Leatherneck & Muskrat - Eric Leavitt
Hardtop & Cover Girl - General Liederkranz
Mirage & Heavy Duty - bayou benny
Gung Ho & Cross Country - SoundEffect
Scarlett & Ripcord - Big Boa's Punching Bag 26
Duke & Shipwreck - kgoodyboy
Bazooka & Spirit - eclusion
Mainframe & Shipwreck - danyanda
Outback & Gung Ho - Jason W.
Snow Job & Cover Girl - The Superfly
Muskrat & Gung Ho - zartan15
Gung Ho & Clutch - bcmeyer32
Shockwave & Low Light - code red shockwave
Muskrat & Low Light - Pete the Greek
Leatherneck & Dusty - tommysalo
Hit & Run & Steamroller - Alkie Ewok
Low Light & Thunder - AVAC
Tunnel Rat & Big Ben - flounnderr
Long Range & Charbroil - Graz73
Shipwreck & Faces - Taichiro
Shipwreck & Lifeline - MobileBattleBunker
Muskrat & Mercer - morgardee
Muskrat & Spearhead - GREIGULL
Mutt & Ripcord - statesofeuphoria
Pathfinder & Shipwreck - beau_1999
Leatherneck & Wetsuit - Janson
Low Light & Roadblock - Snake-eyes01
Alpine & Dusty - batdan
Skydive & Ace - Ann G
Pathfinder & Low Light - The dogg
Gung Ho & Leatherneck - etmartin
Tunnel Rat & Roadblock - JustinBarnhill
Wetsuit & Leatherneck - Predator

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Patrick A. Riley ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dirtyroastbeef:
am i the only one that is completely bummed by who the last joe was?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think it is cool but for the life of me I can't figure why he would be in Tiger Force.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dirtyroastbeef:
am i the only one that is completely bummed by who the last joe was?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

no. i am very bummed too. i give hasbro credit for at least doing something some what new (tiger force is over done). so i guess you can't be upset with them too much. at least they have o rings!!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>am i the only one that is completely bummed by who the last joe was? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I too am extremely bummed out about this figure! To me, it doesn't seem like this figure goes with this set at all :rolleyes:

Cant be any worse than "Major Storm"

why wont you tell me who it is.

i hate you all

only the TOP dogs get to know who it is!

so dont be to hard on yourselves!

hehe

What does top dogs mean? Because you have more posts?

It's friggin' Hardtop. Big yawn.

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: CobraLaLaLarry ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CobraLaLaLarry:
What does top dogs mean? Because you have more posts?

It's friggin' Hardtop. Big yawn.

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: CobraLaLaLarry ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a play on words. 'Top' dog... 'Hard' on yourselves... Hard Top... get it?

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Iron Snake ]

Dang it! And I used to watch Murder She Wrote every week! It was right in front of me.


ps- thanks for the condescending "rolling eyes", that was certainly necessary.

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: CobraLaLaLarry ]

Sorry... didn't think a little gif was going to hurt your feelings. Mea culpa.

Sorry, I'm used to Star Wars message boards where everyone's desperate to make each other look stupid. No big deal. I'm tired and grumpy and it's raining. smile.gif

Hard Top? Snore!

Huh???

I got all worked up to the end of the thread. . .

FOR THAT?!??

If given the choice, I'd rather have Hardtop v1.

WAIT!!! LIGHT BULB!!!

IS HE GONNA HAVE A MICROPHONE???? Hasbro might not include the attachment for fear of duping ya know. Hate to be Devil's advocate. . .but it'd totally suck shelling out all that hard earned cheese and Hardtop doesn't even have the mike on him!

-PJ

Mic and gun.

Mic in black.

bearcatcc, send me an email, you are the contest winner!

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Jeff Bohn ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jeff Bohn:
Mic and gun.

Mic in black.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The original VHTF gun? Is it black too? I hope not

I like Hardtop as the mystery Joe. It follows the precedent set with Major Storm.

Jeff, you have an email.


bearcatcc

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: bearcatcc ]

Hardtop, that is too funny. I'd rather take my TF Deep Six than ol' Hardtop. :D

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CobraLaLaLarry:
What does top dogs mean? Because you have more posts?

It's friggin' Hardtop. Big yawn.

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: CobraLaLaLarry ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


hmmm that was a little unnecesary

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick A. Riley:

The original VHTF gun? Is it black too? I hope not<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Grey, looks like it could be the same gun, can't tell for sure.

They did a great job with different colors for the hard to find accessories!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jeff Bohn:


Grey, looks like it could be the same gun, can't tell for sure.

They did a great job with different colors for the hard to find accessories!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
OK. That's good news. Well, those who wanted repros will be happy, but some might not be happy if they are indeed the exact same accessories (I've seen that subject debated here before)

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Patrick A. Riley ]

I don't know if I like this pick either, but not everyone can be pleased.

i love this pick

http://www.mastercollector.com/neat/gijoe/orlando/figures/hardtop.jpg

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Jeff Bohn ]

uhg............ so.. so... disgusting...
Tiger Force use to be my FAVORITE subgroup... now it looks like Night Force is.
Guess its time to burn the Tf.....

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChrisNeal:
uhg............ so.. so... disgusting...
Tiger Force use to be my FAVORITE subgroup... now it looks like Night Force is.
Guess its time to burn the Tf.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ALL YOUR TIGER FORCE ARE BELONG TO ME!

NOOOO NEVER!

Hard-Top?

Wha?

Hey, how come they can find the mold for his rare gun, but they didnt give the gun that came with Vapor to the Air-Viper?

Curt, do you know?

;)

as bad as this dude looks, i will guarantee that this piece of garbage will be one of the most sought after pieces.yeah he does blow, but look at the uk tiger force outback. will the tiger force just die already!!!

Death to Action Man!!!

This figure is pretty ugly, but for some strange reason, I like it! At least it's not green and orange like Mutt and Beachhead. Just the solid orange helps a little. Looks like I will have a driver for my Defiant gantry now. smile.gif

While despise Tiger Force (these exclusives are no different) I still like the set as a whole for the Mutt & Hard Top molds if nothing else.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by publicenemy:
as bad as this dude looks, i will guarantee that this piece of garbage will be one of the most sought after pieces.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't doubt it.

Looks like my v1 Hardtop (with mic) needs a friend lol.

If anyone's planning one getting extra sets to sell singles PM me, I will almost definitely be interested in Hardtop ;)

[ May 27, 2004: Message edited by: Deogg ]

Hardtop looks like he's about to go hunting

be very very quiet i'm hunting for wabits hehehe :confused:

Well, I guess my attempt at making Hardtop into "sour grapes" backfired on me as I'm stunned they still had the mold for his mike! :eek:

But whew, I'm imagining that is gonna be one EXCITING Joe chase scene. . .

WILL the evil Dreadnoks escape into the swamp? NO! Hardtop drives the crawler in after them! UM, after he drains the swamp and builds a four lane freeway into it. Stay awake Beach Head! Just a few more hours! We'll catch up to 'em yet! :D

I have decided to let Chris or Dave buy the con set I was going to have. Makes me look generous :cool:

-PJ

BOO

i guess i am the only one who likes him

He looks super goofy. I appreciate the fact that they use rare molds; it's just that the tiger force camo/colors look bad to begin with, and on him they look downright ridiculous.

I kind of like Mutt though, but again it's more the mold than anything. Those colors and patterns just look too bright and too goofy, especially to be crawling around in a swamp.

Is there any chance this figure isnt the last figure in the set? I mean really, it doesnt fit in at all. Maybe its something else that you can buy seperate at the con that has nothing to do with the Escapades in the Everglades set??? I mean it doesnt fit in at all. If you look at the shadow on the box, it looks nothing like him. It looks more like Wildbill or Recondo or someone else with a big hat. Not a big HARD HAT!! ARG This sucks. I hope he's not in the box set!!! BLEH!

Tiger Force? He looks like he's more of a Bengals fan than anything, LOL!

So that's 2 straight years we have gotten drivers to large vehicles. My question is where are the large vehicles? smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Crimson Viper Commander:


ALL YOUR TIGER FORCE ARE BELONG TO ME!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not the ones I sold him....he still owes me right now anyway!!!!

I want a pair of tiger Force pajamas like Hardtop's...

I'm with you Zak, I like this figure a lot, I just wish there was more green in his outfit so he fit in with the Mutt and Beach head.

his name is quite ironic now

a figure that is so easy to top is named hard top...........

All Hard Top needs now is a Tiger Force Defiant to match his Pjs. :D

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChrisNeal:
Is there any chance this figure isnt the last figure in the set? I mean really, it doesnt fit in at all. Maybe its something else that you can buy seperate at the con that has nothing to do with the Escapades in the Everglades set??? I mean it doesnt fit in at all. If you look at the shadow on the box, it looks nothing like him. It looks more like Wildbill or Recondo or someone else with a big hat. Not a big HARD HAT!! ARG This sucks. I hope he's not in the box set!!! BLEH!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He is the last figure. No mind games being played on you. Personally, I like him. I know he seems like an odd choice for the last figure. But believe it or not, he does fit in. I have come to learn that MC doesn't just pull random figures for a set. Each one has a purpose. Hard Top has a story behind him which they posted in the newsletter. I'm not going to post the story because MC would probably not approve of that. Someone else will leak it.

Gee.. and all for $200.. What a bargain &lt;Sarcasm mode&gt;

only $200!! wow lemme run out and buy 5 sets! (really dripping with sarcasm)
man i wish hasbro would finally re-release some good figures, granted the NF set was nice, but the TF set was fugly, the 6 pack infantry set was badly molded from the packs i saw, and now this horribly bright set. looks like the 90's neon joes are coming back

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by acmirro:
Hard-Top?

Wha?

Hey, how come they can find the mold for his rare gun, but they didnt give the gun that came with Vapor to the Air-Viper?

Curt, do you know?

;)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Vapor came with a gun?

I like it...I liked TF Outback...I liked Tiger Force...real or not. Interesting choice, fits into the team picked to fail story-line.

Interesting.

etmartin

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kHAoS:


Vapor came with a gun?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He was pictured with one on the Hurricane box and filecard

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Gee.. and all for $200.. What a bargain &lt;Sarcasm mode&gt;[QUOTE][QB]

[QUOTE][QB]only $200!! wow lemme run out and buy 5 sets! (really dripping with sarcasm)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am really looking forward to the time when people stop complaining about this and realize that the set does not cost $200. Attending the convention costs about $150 and the set costs about $100. Divide that by 15 figures and it comes out to less than $7 per figure, which is not all that much considering the limited release and use of more sought after molds.
It seems like a lot of people feel that they have the right to have figures provided to them at cost. Remember 2002 when there was an uproar because you couldn't get the Crimson set unless you were going to Norfolk? MC did all those people a favor and made the set available even if you were not attending. So what if they didn't give you a price break, too. That was a huge bone thrown to people who could not attend. Then last year everyone who didn't attend threw a fit because the ATTENDEE EXCLUSIVE vehicle was not included for those who did not attend. And now the sets are just too expensive. Give me a break. If you want it, buy it. If not, don't. If you an obsessive compulsive completist there are many items out there that are worse than this set.

BTW, I like Hardtop and I think he was a cool choice.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick A. Riley:


He was pictured with one on the Hurricane box and filecard<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Quit sending the newbies snipe hunting. . .

-PJ

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by danyanda:


I am really looking forward to the time when people stop complaining about this and realize that the set does not cost $200. Attending the convention costs about $150 and the set costs about $100. Divide that by 15 figures and it comes out to less than $7 per figure, which is not all that much considering the limited release and use of more sought after molds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Huh? If you're like me, and you aren't going to the conventions or can't afford plane tickets, they still charge over $200 for the set even if you're not going. This is the only reason I haven't bought these sets the last 3 years, is because of the overpricing. No matter what, you end up paying $200 in the end, whether you go to the convention or not. I typically don't have $200 to blow on a set that if it was sold at TRU would go for about $50.

[ May 29, 2004: Message edited by: Brian Kelly ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brian Kelly:
Huh? If you're like me, and you aren't going to the conventions or can't afford plane tickets, they still charge over $200 for the set even if you're not going.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I really don't think that's the point. They cost the same whether you go or not yes, but you get the priviledge of being able to stay at home and still get the sets at all which you can't do for a lot of exclusives hobby items (see Botcon or whatever they're calling it now, the Jorg Sacul figure, or the Keldor exclusive to name but a few). So why complain that you actually have to spend less than the people that go to the conventions (which you do since you're not paying extra for airfare, hotel accomodations, and food + sight seeing/ vacations costs) and not have to beg for favors or resort to ebay to get something at all.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brian Kelly:
This is the only reason I haven't bought these sets the last 3 years, is because of the overpricing. No matter what, you end up paying $200 in the end, whether you go to the convention or not. I typically don't have $200 to blow on a set that if it was sold at TRU would go for about $50.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't really get thoughts like this... the sets aren't a surprise anymore. There's ample time to get together the money for the set. You can't save $200 in a year's time? That's less than $20.00 a month. Most people spend way more than that in a month at retail.

[ May 29, 2004: Message edited by: Iron Snake ]

Iron Snake, my point exactly. They are not overpriced because they are CONVENTION SETS. People are getting a favor done for them by NOT HAVING TO PICK THEM UP IN PERSON (and they actually get shipped to you for $20 less than the con attendee packages cost).
I don't understand how everyone can think that because MC IMO works hard to get sought after figures for a special convention set that it should be available nationwide for retail prices.
If you can't afford it, I'm sorry. I could not afford the Crimson Strike team at the time. Would I love to have it, yes, but I couldn't shell out the money at that time. At $240 per set shipped for non-attendee sets, that works out to $16 per figure. You can order the set and one bagged set for $110, sell the figures from the bagged set singly at $15-16 each and get a set for $110-$125 (about $8 per figure). You could actually buy 2 boxed sets and 2 bagged sets for $700 (60 figures), sell 45 figures at $15 each ($675), and try to sell the box for $25, thus getting a boxed con set for the ebay fees and time it takes to do it. Even if the figures went low ($12 range) you could still get it for under $100. Throw it on the credit card and even if it takes you 2 months to pay it off you'll only pay $20 or so in interest.

Of course then everyone you sell to will be ****ed that you didn't give them the figures for $3 each, with free shipping and extra o-rings.

I wasn't complaining Iron Snake, just pointing out that saying they do not cost $200 when they clearly do is incorrect. There is no way to get them for less. I think you missed the point of my post, I'm not some bitter person jealous that others are getting something I'm not (like many people in the past), just pointing out what I beleived to be an incorrect statement. And yes, I could save $200.00 in a year's time, but again, that was not the point of my post, and I am not willing to spend that much on overpriced, mediocre sets anyway. Overpricing was my point, not my inability to save money. I can totally understand the posts made by other members about the price of these sets. Just because they're limited doesn't mean the price needs to be jacked up so high. But as long as people continue to pay it, they'll continue to do it. If they were cheaper, say half that price, I might get them. I've bought individual figures from the set each year from a few sellers at reasonable prices, but I doubt I'll ever pay the MC prices. But again, it's only my opinion, I'm not whining or flaming. And in the interest of not starting a flame war, I won't post again.

[ May 29, 2004: Message edited by: Brian Kelly ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kHAoS:


Vapor came with a gun?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a joke. Long story.