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    T'Bang talks now??

    Ok, I just got Master & Apprentaice #1 and 2 and T'Bang now talks??? Why? He had taken an oath of silance, and now he talks. DD is really messing up here! First Saw Viper somehow lives and now T'Bang talks, do not get me started on the "super Bat"

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    He also talked in issue 27.

    Here's Brandon Jerwa's response...

    http://brandonjerwa.proboards24.com/...splay&start=15

    "Yes, I chose to ignore T'jbang's oath of silence.

    Why?

    One, we already have a mute Ninja.

    Two...well, you think people complain about too much Ninja action now? Had I taken the time to explain about Onihashi and T's vow, it would have taken up space that was better served by actual story. Not to mention the added continuity burden for new readers. That isn't to say that continuity isn't vital to me, but...

    Three...it's been years since he took the vow, and to run a school, infiltrate a ninja clan, etc...talking is important. Not to mention warning your homeboy when he's about to get slizz-iced in the bizz-ack. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bohn
    He also talked in issue 27.

    Here's Brandon Jerwa's response...

    http://brandonjerwa.proboards24.com/...splay&start=15

    "Yes, I chose to ignore T'jbang's oath of silence.

    Why?

    One, we already have a mute Ninja.

    Two...well, you think people complain about too much Ninja action now? Had I taken the time to explain about Onihashi and T's vow, it would have taken up space that was better served by actual story. Not to mention the added continuity burden for new readers. That isn't to say that continuity isn't vital to me, but...

    Three...it's been years since he took the vow, and to run a school, infiltrate a ninja clan, etc...talking is important. Not to mention warning your homeboy when he's about to get slizz-iced in the bizz-ack. "
    Oh come on!!! That is a cop out! That is so lame! I like want to like Jerwa, but I am afraid he is going to be only slighty better then Blaylock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bohn
    Not to mention warning your homeboy when he's about to get slizz-iced in the bizz-ack. "
    Ok, well I was OK with his explination until he started talking like Snoop Dogg.
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    what he forgot to say is unlike larry hama he can not make a mute ninja interesting. devils due, pay hama what ever he wants you'll sell more books.
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  8. #6
    Jerwa's Explanation works for me.

    If you want to see a Mute ninja, Snake eyes is your man. I'm surprised that anyone even cares about Tj'Bang's oath...

    In the Marvel Ninja Force comics, TjBang always ended up as a minor character because as part of s group, but a non-speaker, he never contributed much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graz73
    In the Marvel Ninja Force comics, TjBang always ended up as a minor character because as part of s group, but a non-speaker, he never contributed much.
    He never contributed much because Hama wanted it that way. Saying he never contributed much because he was a non-speaker isn't logical, because Snake-eyes contributed more than any other character (unfortunately) and he only spoke a single word the entire series.

    I think the new writer either 1. goofed up and is trying to cover his tracks or 2. chose to ignore the old continuity. Number 1 is no big deal, but number 2 disappoints fans of the original series because it goes against the established continuity. It is his decision what to use and what not to use from the old series, but I think if you decide to acknowledge the old stuff, then don't start changing the old stuff around. Not that I care either way, as I rarely read the new series anyway. It just lacks everything that made the Marvel series great.

    Since I love the old series so much, I would have actually preferred to see the old continuity die with Hama's leaving the series. That way it couldn't be twisted with all the new stuff coming out. Hama wrote the cheesy stuff (like the twins and serpentor) because he had to, but Jerwin's love of the cartoon drives him to actually include the stuff on purpose. Again, it's just my personal preference, but if I were writing the series I would have left serpentor dead, ignored most of the science fiction and I certainly wouldn't have killed the old computer guy and left the new glut of techie characters still breathing. Mainframe gets axed but High-tech, Hacker and Harddrive stick around?

    I know I come off as a comic snob in this case, but it's just because the old series was my absolute favorite comic ever and the whole reason I loved Gijoe so much. That being said, I still pick up the new stuff occasionally just to see the Joes in action. I even admit to liking some stuff, like seeing Claymore in the comic and some of the characters never used by Hama. The writing to me will always seem like some fan fic writer won a contest and was given creative control of the series though. I long for the old issues, like the single-issue story where lift-ticket, wild bill, muskrat, lifeline and repeater had to fly into the jungle loaded with extra fuel to pick up scarlett, snake-eyes, chuckles and iceberg for an extraction. There was more heart, action, intelligence and quasi-realism in those little single issues than in all of the new guy's stuff put together.

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    Maybe the vow of silence was not forever. That was never stated explicitly in the Marvel comic (perhaps because T'JBang was such a minor character). Kamakura took a vow of silence (according to his FC) but it was only for 6 months. Maybe if you wrote in you could get a No-Prize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyanda
    Maybe the vow of silence was not forever. That was never stated explicitly in the Marvel comic (perhaps because T'JBang was such a minor character). Kamakura took a vow of silence (according to his FC) but it was only for 6 months. Maybe if you wrote in you could get a No-Prize.
    The No-Prize was a Marvel thing, but otherwise I agree with your take. So we've got one less silent ninja. Forgive me, but really, is it that big a deal? Not every vow is forever, even for a ninja. Perhaps, if the DDP writers think about it a little, they can give us a one shot story explaining the circumstances surrounding T'JBang's now infamous ability to speak.

    And about the twins and the miracle of the Saw-Viper's return. I like the twins. They're interesting. While it's pretty unlikely twin brothers, especially mirror twins (which do exist but are very rare), would just happen to be businessmen who join up with Cobra Commander, they are realistic. There are numerous reports of identical twins "sensing" things about each other, including pain.

    With Saw-Viper. . . well, they really need to address how the heck he's still alive, but I'm not quite ready to say it was a bad thing bringing him back. He is, after all, the Cobra with the highest Joe body count.

    Serpentor should never have been brought back. That was stupid. The Super Bat story in the DDP run was better than the one issue one with Scarlet in late Marvel run IMHO.

    Just my two cents. And long post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard J.
    The Super Bat story in the DDP run was better than the one issue one with Scarlet in late Marvel run IMHO.
    That story wasn't written by Larry Hama; it was a filler story. Check here to verify: http://yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe153.shtml
    As to which one was better, well, I think they both stunk.

    You're right though, the twins aren't that unrealistic, but the fact that they feel each other's pain and communicate telepathically is unrealistic and lame. No big deal though, it doesn't bug me that much. Still, if I brought them back I wouldn't have demonstrated these abilities at all.
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