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\r\n That\'s really interesting. Ever since meeting Goggles and talking with him about the process, prototypes, and such, I\'ve become much more interested in it as a whole. What would possess Hasbro to change this from one year to the next? Did they lose the original copy or something and had to make a new one and just zoomed in weird? Just didn\'t like it? What? Very strange indeed.\r\n
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You\'d think that after 15+ years of having this website, we\'d have uncovered all the little secrets these toys have to offer. I mean, there are some things we\'ll never truly know - who sculpted this figure, who painted that artwork - but for the toys that were released, you\'d think we\'d know the ins and outs of them by now. And yet, we keep finding new things. Don\'t believe me? Then take a look at these scans from
Zandar\'s filecard:
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\r\nThe hair\'s different! Not only that, but the facepaint is actually slightly altered as well. This was first brought to our attention through a post on our
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) It\'s a strange variation to see - not only was the card art altered for no reason, but it was only the art on the filecard! According to the person who made that post, the card art on the front stayed exactly the same. What\'s the point in this change? When did it occur? Imagine my surprise when I unintentionally bought a second Zandar filecard a few weeks ago. (I forgot I already had one!) Turns out, I bought the variation. As near as I can tell, this picture with the longer hair came first - the other side of the filecard only had the "Swivel Arm Battle Grip" in the corner, while the shorter hair filecard had the Fridge mail-in offer there.
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All 1986 releases (36 Back with Swivel, Sgt. Slaughter offer, and Body Transfer offer) had the long hair artwork on the filecard.
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\r\nAnd THANK YOU good kind sir, for clarifying which card these cool variations can be found on! You guys truly rock and are one of the biggest reasons why I love this GIJOE community..\r\n
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\r\n Hey Phil, I got some info on the 1992 Roadblock recall that I wanted to make sure you guys saw:
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Hey Phil, I got some info on the 1992 Roadblock recall that I wanted to make sure you guys saw:
http://forums.yojoe.com/toys-1982-19...-straight.html
Hope all is well!
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