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I guess if there are people willing to pay that much, sellers will sell it for that… But I understand your confusion, as the price jump seemed to happen very recently, and very quickly. Was Snow Serpent a very popular figure back in the day? Like Snake Eyes or something?
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Snow Serpent oh.. What\'s new or something, Katana\r\n
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\r\n Anybody hear anymore from this Guy? I know Snow Serpents are still selling for big $$$, and it\'s not just them all Joes are going up up & away in prices....\r\n
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Climate change...
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\r\n Yeah I noticed this too. I was looking to buy one a couple of weeks ago because I\'m trying to replenish Joe\'s from my childhood and Snow Serpent was one of my faves..... I won\'t be buying one at these prices though.\r\n
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I suspect there is at least one person buying everything he sees related to Snow Serpents. That person approached me last year and bought everything I had (complete, loose, accessories, filecard, etc). I guess it is possible that someone with deep enough pockets could drive the prices up by making the supply go away.
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Up, down, over and through, back around the joke\'s on you....
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Is he trying to corner the market on Snow Serpents? Is he expecting to find dinosaur DNA in them?
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Ultimately you have to scratch your head and wonder what the end game is. Say the dude corners the market and owns 80-90% of the snow serpents out there. Now what? Ok, you\'ve got a gazillion Snow Serpents but who\'s going to buy them? What action figure dealer is going to give you $55-60 a figure to have a mountain of Snow Serpents as inventory? Could individual collectors want them, sure but again, you\'d probably want to get $60+ a piece to make the entire endeavour worth your while. How many collectors are going to shell out that kind of scratch to have a SS? And still, say you do decide to sell to collectors- through what venue??? ebay?? ok, so you spent all this time effort and money to try and corner a market on SS jus tto turn around and resell them all and hope you get a good return on them. The dude would probably do better just slapping the cash into a mutual fund pegged to the NYSE and call it a day. Seems a lot of effort with an unknown amount of return.\r\n
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\r\n That\'s the problem with amassing all those figures for the purpose of driving up the price and reselling them. The first few he sells will go high-' + '- about what he paid for them, sence they\'re selling high right now. As more Snow Serpents get back into the market, the price will go down, so the last few he sells will be much cheaper. In the end, he\'ll be lucky to make back what he spent on them.
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Ultimately you have to scratch your head and wonder what the end game is. Say the dude corners the market and owns 80-90% of the snow serpents out there. Now what? Ok, you\'ve got a gazillion Snow Serpents but who\'s going to buy them? What action figure dealer is going to give you $55-60 a figure to have a mountain of Snow Serpents as inventory? Could individual collectors want them, sure but again, you\'d probably want to get $60+ a piece to make the entire endeavour worth your while. How many collectors are going to shell out that kind of scratch to have a SS? And still, say you do decide to sell to collectors- through what venue??? ebay?? ok, so you spent all this time effort and money to try and corner a market on SS jus tto turn around and resell them all and hope you get a good return on them. The dude would probably do better just slapping the cash into a mutual fund pegged to the NYSE and call it a day. Seems a lot of effort with an unknown amount of return.
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\r\n just my 2 cents,but personaly I would rather have the joe club SS- he has better paint apps in my opinion . why isn\'t that figure in the archive ? the two packs that came out in 07\'\r\n
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\r\n I really have doubts that 1 person could really impact the price of Snow Serpents over the long run. Right now sure, he bids up all of them on eBay. But eventually he is going to stop and there are plenty more out there. Last I heard most GIJoe figures made in the 80s had runs in the hundreds of thousands if not over a million. Good luck getting the majority of that.\r\n
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\r\n Guys or Gals: I am the person you are speaking of. It never occurred to me that anyone would take such interests in my action or strategy or motivation. You will note no doubt that I make no effort to hide my identity, it is my actual name on both ebay and on this forum. A simple Google search will show that I am a casino executive. It is true that I have accumulated over 20,000 snow serpents. The precise number is 32,331 as of yesterday. 20,118 are complete. There were 800,000 produced. While it is true that individual sellers list snow serpents for retarded sums of money, trust me when I tell you I know exactly how much each one sells for in whatever form. The ten day running average for 85 snow serpents complete with file card is 28.84. Complete without the file card is 21.42. The price goes up and down, though it has largely flattened out. As of now I pay a max price of 35 for complete with file card and 30 without. That depends on the condition and auction demand. I buy through 12 different channels currently and have professional buyers looking for them as well. As long as I am winning 70% of eBay auctions my max price stays the same. If I win more than 70% I lower the price, and vice versa.
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\nNow as to why. This is not a financial investment, but it is financial research. I have been collecting these figures for about three years now. I am measuring the effect a disruptive purchasor has on a closed market. That is a market that has a finite amount of a particular item. I in tend to continue to purchase until such time that I can not procure more than 50 in a given month. The applications of this are mainly for financial instruments.
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\nFor example non sophisticated sellers are currently listing the item for silly amounts like 99 complete. They will get no buyers obviously as there is no actual demand. They, like many others, see buy it now listing for $50...they never sell...they wrongly believe there is a buying frenzy out there... Meanwhile their action effectively removes one item from the economy system marketplace. That\'s to my benefit. Other interesting things occur as well. For example fraudulent bidders have bid me up with no intention of paying (and true to ebays word one persons account was disabled) I found that interesting as well. There are many more lessons to be applied that I won\'t bore you with (if you are still reading that is)
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\nMy end game: I collected gi joe as a child and I have a 2 year old boy that I have amassed a collection for. Hopefully he will enjoy them as I did. As for the huge amount of snow serpents, I will just dump them back in the market place using eBay and other marketplaces for what I assume will be a huge loss. But I can tell you from a personal level it has been money well spent. I have already learned alot.
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\nWhat I would leave you withe is this: what may seem like a lot of money to some may seem like grains of Sands on the beach to others.
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Guys or Gals: I am the person you are speaking of. It never occurred to me that anyone would take such interests in may action or strategy or motivation. You will note no doubt that I make no effort to hide my identity, it is my actual name on both ebay and on this forum. A simple Google search will show that I am a casino executive. It is true that I have accumulated over 20,000 snow serpents. The precise number is 32,331 as of yesterday. 20,118 are complete. There were 800,000 produced. While it is true that individual sellers list snow serpents for retarded sums of money, trust me when I tell you I know exactly how much each one sells for in whatever form. The ten day running average for 85 snow serpents complete with file card is 28.84. Complete without the file card is 21.42. The price goes up and down, though it has largely flattened out. As of now I pay a max price of 35 for complete with file card and 30 without. That depends on the condition and auction demand. I buy through 12 different channels currently and have professional buyers looking for them as well. As long as I am winning 70% of eBay auctions my max price stays the same. If I win more than 70% I lower the price, and vice versa.
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\nNow as to why. This is not a financial investment, but it is financial research. I have been collecting these figures for about three years now. I am measuring the effect a disruptive purchasor has on a closed market. That is a market that has a finite amount of a particular item. I it end to continue to purchase until such time that I can not procure more than 50 in a given month. The applications of this are mainly for financial instruments.
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\nFor example no sophisticated sellers are currently listing the item for silly amounts like 99 complete. They will get no buyers obviously as there is no actual demand. Meanwhile their action effectively removes one item from the economy system marketplace. That\'s to my benefit. Other interesting things occur as well. For example fraudulent bidders have bid me up with no intention of paying (and true to ebays word one persons account was disabled) I found that interesting as well. There are many more lessons to be applied that I won\'t bore you with (if you are still reading that is)
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Fascinating. I have one suggestion - If you would apply this method of financial research to the 50TH Anniversary Blowtorch figure, it would be greatly appreciated. I have a boatload of them, and I want those Ronald McDonald lookin\' S.O.B.s out of my house.
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...What I would leave you withe is this: what may seem like a lot of money to some may seem like grains of Sands on the beach to others...
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Guys or Gals: I am the person you are speaking of. It never occurred to me that anyone would take such interests in may action or strategy or motivation. You will note no doubt that I make no effort to hide my identity, it is my actual name on both ebay and on this forum. A simple Google search will show that I am a casino executive. It is true that I have accumulated over 20,000 snow serpents. The precise number is 32,331 as of yesterday. 20,118 are complete. There were 800,000 produced. While it is true that individual sellers list snow serpents for retarded sums of money, trust me when I tell you I know exactly how much each one sells for in whatever form. The ten day running average for 85 snow serpents complete with file card is 28.84. Complete without the file card is 21.42. The price goes up and down, though it has largely flattened out. As of now I pay a max price of 35 for complete with file card and 30 without. That depends on the condition and auction demand. I buy through 12 different channels currently and have professional buyers looking for them as well. As long as I am winning 70% of eBay auctions my max price stays the same. If I win more than 70% I lower the price, and vice versa.
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\nNow as to why. This is not a financial investment, but it is financial research. I have been collecting these figures for about three years now. I am measuring the effect a disruptive purchasor has on a closed market. That is a market that has a finite amount of a particular item. I it end to continue to purchase until such time that I can not procure more than 50 in a given month. The applications of this are mainly for financial instruments.
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\nFor example no sophisticated sellers are currently listing the item for silly amounts like 99 complete. They will get no buyers obviously as there is no actual demand. Meanwhile their action effectively removes one item from the economy system marketplace. That\'s to my benefit. Other interesting things occur as well. For example fraudulent bidders have bid me up with no intention of paying (and true to ebays word one persons account was disabled) I found that interesting as well. There are many more lessons to be applied that I won\'t bore you with (if you are still reading that is)
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\nMy end game: I collected gi joe as a child and I have a 2 year old boy that I have amassed a collection fr. Hopefully he will enjoy them as I did. As for the huge amount of snow serpents, I will just dump them back in the market place using eBay and other marketplaces for what I assume will be a huge loss. But I can tell you from a personal level it has been money well spent. I have already learned alot.
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\nI find it insulting that you would suggest that the kind of money you are ending is a pittance to you. Most people work hard for their money, and as a collector, $30.00 is a lot to me. I hope your wealth never dries up, as you would probably find those precious "grains of sand on the beach" more important than you thought. Keep this in mind: Everyone is subject to Fortune\'s fickle wheel; you go up and you come down. The attitude of elites like you is why a war of the classes is inevitable. Maybe your army of Snow Serpents will come in handy after all!\r\n
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Perhaps if you didn\'t find inspiration in the words of Al Bundy you would be more successful in life.
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\nYou know, I usually follow the mantra "Never argue with an idiot," but in your case I\'ll make an exception. Taking pot-shots at someone for using a humourous quote is actually a low-brow thing to do in itself. Secondly, I am actually quite successful in life - Thanks for asking. As an educator, I inspire inner-city youth to reach their potential despite their circumstances. As a well-to-do casino exec, which I highly doubt you are, you have been successful in....????? Helping run an organization that legally steals from others, even when they only have a few "grains of sand" left in their pockets??? Running an "experiment" to enrich yourself and/or your organization by wasting time collecting 30,000 + action figures and using economic vocabulary to make it sound like some sort of a legitimate game-theory-esque thesis to add to the lexicon of economic theory along the lines of true geniuses like Keynes or Galbraith!?! Your elite attitude and dismissal of me, and the rest of the collectors like me, as some sort of residue to be scraped off your shoe is really sad. I hope you don\'t raise your children with the same attitude. How sad.
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\nI\'m done with you now. You should go. I think I just heard someone crying..........Oh, it was a gambling addict who just had his last five dollars taken legally. I guess that means you can buy Snow Serpent number 30,355.
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\r\n Actually you sound like a whiny little bitch who feebly attempts to take the moral high ground while typing anonymous insults through the yojoe.com forum!
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Actually you sound like a whiny little bitch who feebly attempts to take the moral high ground while typing anonymous insults through the yojoe.com forum!
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\nAh, I love that your response reinforces everything I just said! Anonymous.........says Eric "Something" from "Somewhere-city", "Somewhere-state", U.S.A.? 90210? Are you even formally educated? Is that the most insightful, articulate response you can give? What was it I was saying about you having NO way to respond because my argument was so sound? Ha!!!
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\r\n But to get back to your question....fraud is a part of any closed system...currency or even gi joe...probably 2% of my orders contain mi stated parts or accessories....the similarities between 85 and 25th anniversary may lead to some honest mistakes but others have tried to take advantage...I\'ve even had people sell non original guns that look very close and some back packs too...for me counterfeit items are just part of the process!!! And paypal and ebay have protected me on a few occasions as well!!\r\n
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\r\n No. It\'s been a long time since I\'ve been in school. It\'s really just something I want to truly understand for my own benefit. I\'m hoping to one day have 200,000 of them and then I\'ll just liquidate them on ebay and move on!\r\n
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pn[863461] = "863451,863471";
pn[863471] = "863461,863501";
pn[863501] = "863471,863541";
pn[863541] = "863501,863301";
pn[863301] = "863541,863331";
pn[863331] = "863301,863351";
pn[863351] = "863331,863371";
pn[863371] = "863351,863431";
pn[863431] = "863371,863561";
pn[863561] = "863431,863601";
pn[863601] = "863561,863611";
pn[863611] = "863601,863731";
pn[863731] = "863611,863781";
pn[863781] = "863731,863811";
pn[863811] = "863781,863801";
pn[863801] = "863811,863831";
pn[863831] = "863801,863841";
pn[863841] = "863831,863851";
pn[863851] = "863841,865241";
pn[865241] = "863851,863891";
pn[863891] = "865241,863931";
pn[863931] = "863891,863971";
pn[863971] = "863931,864011";
pn[864011] = "863971,864061";
pn[864061] = "864011,864071";
pn[864071] = "864061,864131";
pn[864131] = "864071,865201";
pn[865201] = "864131,866061";
pn[866061] = "865201,866191";
pn[866191] = "866061,866261";
pn[866261] = "866191,866301";
pn[866301] = "866261,866721";
pn[866721] = "866301,868551";
pn[868551] = "866721,884751";
pn[884751] = "868551,885241";
pn[885241] = "884751,885251";
pn[885251] = "885241,885291";
pn[885291] = "885251,885311";
pn[885311] = "885291,889231";
pn[889231] = "885311,889691";
pn[889691] = "889231,891601";
pn[891601] = "889691,891671";
pn[891671] = "891601,889251";
pn[889251] = "891671,889411";
pn[889411] = "889251,889501";
pn[889501] = "889411,891621";
pn[891621] = "889501,891681";
pn[891681] = "891621,892171";
pn[892171] = "891681,892961";
pn[892961] = "892171,892981";
pn[892981] = "892961,893561";
pn[893561] = "892981,891691";
pn[891691] = "893561,891831";
pn[891831] = "891691,891841";
pn[891841] = "891831,893661";
pn[893661] = "891841,893681";
pn[893681] = "893661,893691";
pn[893691] = "893681,893711";
pn[893711] = "893691,893751";
pn[893751] = "893711,893771";
pn[893771] = "893751,893901";
pn[893901] = "893771,893951";
pn[893951] = "893901,893931";
pn[893931] = "893951,893961";
pn[893961] = "893931,893991";
pn[893991] = "893961,894051";
pn[894051] = "893991,894021";
pn[894021] = "894051,894041";
pn[894041] = "894021,894101";
pn[894101] = "894041,894141";
pn[894141] = "894101,895696";
pn[895696] = "894141,896773";
pn[896773] = "895696,896780";
pn[896780] = "896773,896954";
pn[896954] = "896780,896821";
pn[896821] = "896954,896945";
pn[896945] = "896821,896953";
pn[896953] = "896945,896955";
pn[896955] = "896953,896959";
pn[896959] = "896955,896960";
pn[896960] = "896959,896976";
pn[896976] = "896960,896961";
pn[896961] = "896976,896962";
pn[896962] = "896961,896963";
pn[896963] = "896962,896966";
pn[896966] = "896963,896975";
pn[896975] = "896966,896969";
pn[896969] = "896975,896986";
pn[896986] = "896969,897050";
pn[897050] = "896986,897060";
pn[897060] = "897050,897088";
pn[897088] = "897060,897152";
pn[897152] = "897088,897424";
pn[897424] = "897152,897425";
pn[897425] = "897424,897427";
pn[897427] = "897425,897589";
pn[897589] = "897427,897591";
pn[897591] = "897589,897612";
pn[897612] = "897591,898549";
pn[898549] = "897612,898548";
pn[898548] = "898549,898560";
pn[898560] = "898548,898654";
pn[898654] = "898560,898664";
pn[898664] = "898654,898675";
pn[898675] = "898664,900215";
pn[900215] = "898675,900298";
pn[900298] = "900215,901489";
pn[901489] = "900298,901497";
pn[901497] = "901489,901510";
pn[901510] = "901497,904762";
pn[904762] = "901510,904820";
pn[904820] = "904762,904822";
pn[904822] = "904820,850061";
// cached usernames
pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[27804] = "scrapiron";
pu[89272] = "Katana";
pu[5592] = "Super Sport";
pu[4237] = "seaneley";
pu[107671] = "HoodedCobraCommander788";
pu[7129] = "Janus";
pu[3759] = "TYPE*S*TOYS";
pu[110071] = "Johnny Stabbo";
pu[10359] = "maraxusofkeld";
pu[7104] = "Currahee_Chris";
pu[4563] = "curch";
pu[4337] = "spiderpumpkin";
pu[12806] = "StkhlmDK";
pu[11159] = "navy viper";
pu[1830] = "FireFox91";
pu[102831] = "erichpersson";
pu[26543] = "Xenos";
pu[81011] = "nickvree";
pu[113461] = "Elvisrocker";
pu[113471] = "Retail-viper";
pu[8620] = "darthdrew13";
pu[6334] = "grunt 4 mvp";
pu[86682] = "3DJoes";
pu[5133] = "Flophouse";
pu[934] = "Bigbot";
pu[10266] = "Kronz";
pu[18351] = "Plastica";
pu[6852] = "code_name_flint";
pu[92902] = "4-Cobra";
pu[5596] = "skinny";
pu[113421] = "CobraGoalie";
pu[28095] = "hahoo3";
pu[101911] = "Quinine911";
pu[9164] = "LittleBoa";
pu[3654] = "JediJones";
pu[5522] = "tarz_an2003";
pu[16441] = "darkwise";
pu[119971] = "Scotter260";
pu[1100] = "ImaWalkingCorpse";
pu[120461] = "YTMN";
pu[83282] = "greenlant408";
pu[2039] = "General Storm";
pu[4712] = "nero9000";
pu[4886] = "ridetofight";
pu[7195] = "IlliniJoe";
pu[1603] = "Skystriker";
pu[2375] = "sithviper";
pu[16851] = "Labyrinth";
pu[15541] = "ransac";
pu[122531] = "arjorda";
pu[7300] = "Jonesboy75";
pu[2954] = "crimsonhawk";
pu[3553] = "BoogDoc7";
pu[124912] = "4 cobra";
pu[2754] = "danth78";
pu[116881] = "bitswapper";
pu[9089] = "krazycp";
pu[125471] = "Oakyz";
// -->
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