Well said Howie. I wish the moderators would stop guys like this from hijacking threads and adding posts that have nothing to do with the topic at all. If they have nothing to add then they should just stay away.Originally Posted by RRL75
Well said Howie. I wish the moderators would stop guys like this from hijacking threads and adding posts that have nothing to do with the topic at all. If they have nothing to add then they should just stay away.Originally Posted by RRL75
Alright dudes, I'm hijacking this thread!
Here's my list of demands:
1.) One Big Mac
2.) 3 Marbles
3.) A toothpick
and
4.) A good discussion on the original question asked in this thread
Until my list is met, I will once every hour, post a random post having nothing to do with anything AND ! ! ! It will include complaining, swearing and name calling! ! !
You have 59 min. before the next post... The clock is ticking, better get on it!
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I played, ate and slept Joe as a kid and yet as an adult I still can't get enough of it! ! !
I think if a person is willing to spend the money anyway, they should seek out non AFA MISB toys. Perhaps the real problem with AFA grading is that it might make collectors make blind purchases. They see a good AFA grade and not look too closely at the item.
I don't know much about the grading, but AFA 85 sounds like something that's pretty nice looking, not perfect, but not garbage either. Still, I don't like AFA, but I also think that this thread is more about a collector getting ripped off, than it is about AFA. I never like seeing a collector get ripped off.
Last edited by MikePrime; 01-14-2006 at 07:29 PM.
1. I got a whopper with cheese. close enoughOriginally Posted by GBPackRat
2. 3 marbles sent to you via telegram
3. (searches for toothpick in car) heres one. its only slightly used
4. my 2 cents. i actually have seen inconsistancies in afa graded items too. maybe they are getting more laxed now since the market is getting flooded with them. i do wonder if there aint a little bribbing going on the side from the high end sellers. i have no proof either way to justify that accusation. its just a hunch.
afa has its place and it will be around for a while longer. imho though if they dont get organized then the market is going to see one day grade 90 storm shadows with broken tabs and creases going down the middle.
so in answer to the original question i havnt personally gotten afa items with huge inconsistancies with the same grade but i have seen it at shows and such.
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I do not personally buy AFA items due to the high prices but I can see why one would want to. How cool would it be to walk into your display room and see it ceiling to floor G.I. Joes still in boxes like it was when we were kids. Anyways I have seen quite a few not always joes and I too noticed quite a lot of differential especially in the 85's it seems not so much in the 90's and below 80 so I can imagine ebay is really hard because you do only have the word of the AFA grader and seller and can't "really" see it. As opposed to myself who buys a joe on there for 2 bucks I am only out two bucks your out 200. My final thought here is to buy MISB and than have it graded probably cheaper(though I don't know how much it is to get things graded) to reach the goals you are looking for. As long as your collecting joes your alright with me
my problem is i always remember the counterfeit Transformer in a resealed package that AFA graded high,they ended up buying the item from the guy who won it in an auction,but how many forgeries have passed there discerning eye?
Was that just a rumor, or was it for real? Either way, that's a good point for those who are pretty much just slabbing box-art with unseen; unassembled contents.Originally Posted by Clutch II
Oh, and Howie?
That sensitivity you're feeling (when I bullseyed the nerve like that) will never go away, because it's not as externally sourced as your investor buddies want you to believe.
It's internal.
You sold out your childhood and it really stings when someone points it out.
With quotes only, no less.
Don't worry, the mods are on your side. You won't even feel the wrist slap.
-PJ
That chip must be almost unbearable now hey Paul?
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Well Im still new to Joe collecting but I collected Sports cards for almost 15 years and when People started getting cards graded is when i got out, It ruined the hobby for a lot of people. Collecting should be fun.Why should you Pay money for some person to say what condition your Joe is in and has probably never played with a joe. I understand some poeple who are saying that they look nice in the cases but cant you just buy some protective cases your self. I see some of the stuff on ebay going for hundreds of dollars because someone put a grade on it (sports cards, Joe's etc) and that is why Hobbies are going down the drain. Just my 2 cents
P.s. These are public boards aren't they? So everyone one's opinions are welcome.
Last edited by jsand0101; 01-14-2006 at 10:15 PM.
it was real and it was a Cliffjumper"Fake" mint on "re"Sealed Card.
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