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  1. #1

    Too many Joes nowadays...

    Doesn't anyone agree that there are over 200 Joes, why not have some more killed off. There's plenty of goofy and useless ones that never appear in the comics anymore: Hardhat, Payload, Downtown, Back Blast, Spearhead, Scoop, Footloose, Keel Haul, Psych Out, Backstop, Taurus, Red Dog, Light Foot, Wild Card, Windmill, Dog Fight, Hot Seat, Long Range, Long Arm, Mace, Ambush, Capt. Gridiron, Freefall, Topside, Ozone, Clean Sweep, Major Altitude, Cross Country, Outback, Fast Draw, the list goes on and on and on. Most were just in the Marvel comic once and never appeared again, have something big come around and get rid of a few.

    Who else would you want killed off?
    For me, I'd love to see the Fridge go out in a longdrawn out battle with Road Pig.

    By the way, is there a list of everyone killed off?

  2. #2
    i personally like to see more characters fall, but when you have a story that has acompaning(sp) action figures its best to let them live and let each individual decide for themselves who dies and who lives


  3. #3
    None of them.

    The problem with killing characters it two-fold. First off, no matter who you kill, you take out somebody's favorite. Even if it's a nobody like LongArm, there's somebody out there that loves the character.

    The second problem is once you kill them, that's it. Sure you can get one good story out of their death, but that prevents any other god stories from ever being done with the character. A good writer can get tons of decent stories out of a character without killing them.

    Personally, I have no problem with there being a ton of Joes. It's a big organization with a huge enemy. It needs the people.
    *insert something witty here*

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  5. #4
    it would be better to use those joes for special missions like the ones they are best trained for.i never understood why they send desert troopers for artic missions when there are so many other joes suited for that?

  6. #5
    That fact is that many of those characters never appeared in any version of the comic or may have only been pictured. A few "minor characters" were killed in the last issues of DDP comics in they'e only appearance. The problem isn't "too many Joes," it's "not enough Joes used"
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  7. #6
    I don't see any reason to kill anybody off. I wouldn't mind if most of those Joes you mentioned were never seen again though. Some of them appeared in only one issue and will probably never pop up again. Have them retire or something.

    Oh yeah, I wouldn't have included Outback in that bunch. He was much more prominent than any of them.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw Viper
    None of them.

    The problem with killing characters it two-fold. First off, no matter who you kill, you take out somebody's favorite. Even if it's a nobody like LongArm, there's somebody out there that loves the character.

    The second problem is once you kill them, that's it. Sure you can get one good story out of their death, but that prevents any other god stories from ever being done with the character. A good writer can get tons of decent stories out of a character without killing them.

    Personally, I have no problem with there being a ton of Joes. It's a big organization with a huge enemy. It needs the people.
    I totally agree. This is a comic. Marvel didn't kill off every character they didn't know what to do with. Sure, Kwinn, Dr. Venom, Flagg, and the Soft Master, Candy and other non-figure characters, but there was a reason for it. I think that DD needs to lighten up. They killed off Joes that either had a limited appearance or no appearances in the other comics, and it seems like they brought them back just to kill them and for no other reason. I mean, why not just have the characters there in the story when their speciality is called for? Like, Spirit is on R and R, or he's on another assignment, so, call Tracker or Dart in. Not, well, here's this random guy walking along the beach, "Hey, Tracker!" "What?" Boom! He's dead. I mean, what is that? Deaths in the new comics (and in Marvel issues where people were taken out en masse), are as disappointing as the first time I watched the Mission: Impossible movie. It doesn't seem like what it's supposed to represent. I mean, DD said that they killed off Lady Jaye because she was a favorite, and because they needed something like that to have a better story, or, more likely, because they ran out of ideas and needed a significant death to spark up new story ideas and characterizations, but I think the same basic effect could have been shown if a family member was killed, as opposed to a wonderful main character. That was like killing off Luke or Leia or even Han in a Star Wars movie. It would have ruined the whole thing and made a lot of people mad, not to mention not making any sense.

  9. #8
    I don't agree with the people who are on DD for the deaths in their run, though I respect their opinions. These writers are however telling a story about military men & terrorists. It adds realism that Daemon didn't make it past that first encounter with Serpentor, and that when the Joes took the fight to Cobra Island they lost a few more boys. I am sad that Chuckles is gone, but its a story. Its not weak writing to write deaths in a war comic, its the natural progression. They are the best of the best, not immortal. Too bad for LJ, but I'm sure people felt the same way for Breaker, Doc, Quick Kick, Sneak Peek, etc. My two cents anyway.

  10. #9
    No. I still stand by the fact that it's weak writting. Not the fact that people died, but how it was written.

    Lots of those dead DD Joes didn't even get any real pannel time before they died and after they died, nothing was really shown following it up. There wasn't any drama, angst, or even basic characterization. Lady Jaye's death was simply used as a cheap plot device to completley change the character of Flint.
    *insert something witty here*

  11. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by snarf5181
    I don't agree with the people who are on DD for the deaths in their run, though I respect their opinions. These writers are however telling a story about military men & terrorists. It adds realism that Daemon didn't make it past that first encounter with Serpentor, and that when the Joes took the fight to Cobra Island they lost a few more boys. I am sad that Chuckles is gone, but its a story. Its not weak writing to write deaths in a war comic, its the natural progression. They are the best of the best, not immortal. Too bad for LJ, but I'm sure people felt the same way for Breaker, Doc, Quick Kick, Sneak Peek, etc. My two cents anyway.
    A comic book is not supposed to be realistic. If it was it would be boring. Superman wouldn't fly, Spiderman wouldn't sling webs, etc.. Comic books are fantasy. GI Joe is not a war comic. A war comic is something like "The Nam." GI Joe is a toy line comic book which dips heavy into fantasy. So we don't need body counts. IMO I wouldn't want to see Major Bludd, Zartan or any of the bad guys killed off either.

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