DON'T DEAL W/ ROBERT/BRANDY BOHANON of WICHITAW, KS!

[Mindbender M.D.]

\r\n \r\n Yeah I have a deal for 5 troops as well. I dont think this is going to turn out good.
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\n-Richard\r\n \r\n

[Derek2783]

\r\n \r\n Did you send money already? He left last with a message saying to send him an MO and gave me his address.
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\nI wrote back over the past two days asking if he would be willing to send first due to him not having references, and shortly after the I posted here, he shot me an e-mail saying "thanks but I sold them already"... which feels fishy since he didn\'t want to share that little bit of info until now.\r\n \r\n

[GENERAL HAWK 7]

\r\n \r\n Yep. He wants to sell me 5 25th Anniversary Cobra Troopers as well.
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\r\nWants me to send him a money order for $50 to:
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\r\nRobert Bohanon
\r\n1631 S. Rutan
\r\nWichita, KS 67218
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\r\nThankfully I sensed something fishy was going on and contacted Mindbender M.D.
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\r\nWe both PM\'ed him about it and this is what he claimed:
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\r\n"I actually have 13 of them right now, would you like a pic? I can understand your concern, but I kinda don\'t like your tone. If you don\'t want them, don\'t buy them. I could care less, I have more offers. I CAN send a pic of what I have now, and you can check my ebay ID mr_nate_b and see that I have 6 more on the way on top of the 13."
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\r\nBut check his user ID buys on ebay:
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\r\nLook at what he is paying for them... and he wants to sell them for only $10 each? Does that make sense?\r\n \r\n

[Mindbender M.D.]

\r\n \r\n I hate to think this is a scam and Robert is a bad guy. I would like him to post here and just let us know his side. I am not the kind to shoot first ask questions later but more innocent until proven guilty kind of guy.
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\nIf anyone else has a "deal" pending please post here.
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\nPeace,
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\n-Richard\r\n \r\n

[BRIMSTONE]

\r\n \r\n http://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=41638
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\r\nall you need to know.\r\n \r\n

[GENERAL HAWK 7]

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http://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=41638
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\nYou think this is the same guy? How come?\r\n \r\n

[Derek2783]

\r\n \r\n Wait, if he has 13, with 6 more on the way, how come he told me "sorry I sold them already" when I asked about shipping first and after I posted this here? I hate to jump to conclusions, but something\'s not right.\r\n \r\n

[GENERAL HAWK 7]

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I hate to think this is a scam and Robert is a bad guy. I would like him to post here and just let us know his side. I am not the kind to shoot first ask questions later but more innocent until proven guilty kind of guy.
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\nIf anyone else has a "deal" pending please post here.
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\nPeace,
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\n-Richard

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I second that. I am not saying that he is trying to scam anyone. It just seem a bit fishy. But there may be a good explanation too. I am hoping that he or someone can clear him on this.
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\nHe is going to send me pictures of the figures to prove he has them. I also asked him why he is paying so much for them, but selling them for so little.
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\nI\'ll let you guys know.
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\nHoping for the best. \r\n \r\n

[Mindbender M.D.]

\r\n \r\n I am with you GENERAL HAWK 7, I did not mean to imply that you were out for blood. LOL I was just launching a pre-emptive strike so not to cause a bashfest.
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\nIf we all look at Brimstones link I think we will get a better picture of whats going on.\r\n \r\n

[Mindbender M.D.]

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\r\nI just got a PM from this guy. He basically said that this is just his dummy account and that he doesn\'t mind screwing people with this account. His real name is Rob Bowhanon AKA spiritob1 from Andover Kansas (Just outside Wichita). He says he still has his main E-Bay account. Does anyone know what his other account is? And when he gets kicked off for one, will he be suspended from all his accounts? I think when one board member got kicked off, they suspended multiple accounts of his.
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\r\nI just got a PM from this guy. He basically said that this is just his dummy account and that he doesn\'t mind screwing people with this account. His real name is Rob Bowhanon AKA spiritob1 from Andover Kansas (Just outside Wichita). He says he still has his main E-Bay account. Does anyone know what his other account is? And when he gets kicked off for one, will he be suspended from all his accounts? I think when one board member got kicked off, they suspended multiple accounts of his.
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I don\'t know where this is from & what it is in referance to. Because this post seems confusing to me, I would just like to clarify to anyone reading this, I am not Bobman nor have anything to do with him.\r\n \r\n

[dockingbay97]

\r\n \r\n Agreed - Blayloxzuess IS NOT Bobman\r\n \r\n

[The Faceless Master]

\r\n \r\n I second that
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\r\nBlayloxzuess is NOT bobman\r\n \r\n

[ImaWalkingCorpse]

\r\n \r\n Blaylox is the polar opposite of Bobman. Bobman is a coward, always has been always will be. I have never dealt with him... and I generally avoid Wichita in general with it being the armpit of America.\r\n \r\n

[ForceFull1]

\r\n \r\n Allrighty, well, if we can\'t get a sticky on this guy, nothing is stopping us from periodically bumping this thread to the top of the section. Here\'s my contribution, plus a link to my run in with our good friend Bob:
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\r\nhttp://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=47770\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n But you\'re all screwed...lots of threads about this POS here\'s one from when he screwed me.
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\nhttp://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.p...ghlight=bobman\r\n \r\n

[Mindbender M.D.]

\r\n \r\n I am sorry to hear about your situation Nevermore and appreciate the link. I think we however did not get screwed because we did not send any money to this human. I wonder if there is a way to ban this person for good?
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[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n well I guess that depends on what you consider getting screwed. If you sent some figures in a trade and he doesn\'t send his side and he keeps yours then in my opinion you got screwed.
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\nAs you can see by his posts after screwing people he is actually proud of what he does.
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\nThey keep banning his individual names but he keeps coming back. I think I heard somewhere they couldn\'t permanately ban him bc he was on aol and it would ban all aol users. I might be totally off but I remember hearing something like that sometime.\r\n \r\n

[Urban Saboteur]

\r\n \r\n He really should be arrested by now..
\nA guy who scams that much just isn\'t commiting mail fraud.. and for people who generally respect the law .. its them that have to suffer the consequences..
\nsadly until something serious is done about this guy.. anyone knew to buying and anyone who doesnt know that name will be at risk.
\nRobert Bohanon.. remember the name.. Gish.. It\'s hard not to forget after seeing his name so much in the forums.. \r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n There should be a sticky at the top of the trades section warning people about Robert Bohanon. That way any new people that come in and aren\'t familiar w/the situation don\'t get screwed. Thats what he waits for. Lets a little time pass, lets some new people in and then hits and runs. What about it MODS? Could we get a sticky?\r\n \r\n

[Derek2783]

\r\n \r\n I edited the title of the thread, we should be able to just sticky it now, right?\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n honestly if you are contacted by someone without references it is on you to do some homework before proceeding.
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\r\nsearch his address or his names and you will find all you need to know.
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\r\nin the future that is what i would suggest\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n True... but many new people don\'t know all the do\'s and don\'ts of trading. They see a whole forum doing it and think everything is legit. We know Mr. and Mrs. Bohanon are POS and will be back to try again and again so why not at least attempt to save some people from being ripped off. If anything at least he won\'t be getting as much stolen stuff from everyone. If people know about him and stop trading with him then perhaps he finally will go away.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n the best bet is to use the good bad traders list.
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\r\nan invaluable resource here.
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\r\nif they arent on there then dont do the deal\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n Like I said...good advice but we\'re not solving the problem. Unless you are going to send this message to every new person that comes on you\'re only preaching to the converted. Thus only helping the people that don\'t really need any help.
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\nWe know he will be back and try to rip off some people so why not make a sticky about him instead of just another thread to be buried and eventually linked to AFTER someone gets ripped off? Ask the last few people that got ripped off by him if a sticky with his name would have been useful.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n we are not the police here and cannot sticky a thread like that.
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\r\npeople need to take a proactive approach to trading and check on who they are dealing with unless they have established creds.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n the problem rich is that to few actually do check on who they are dealing with.
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\r\nits simple really. do you leave your money with just anyone or do you trust an established bank?
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\r\nits impossible to keep a stickied list on bad dealers because no one can agree on the criteria for such a list.\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n Again...great advice but obviously not doing a damn thing about the problem. He keeps coming back and he keeps ripping people off. How many more times does he get to do this, ripping people off left and right for their stuff, before you realize that IT IS NOT WORKING! If it is not working then perhaps something new should be tried.
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\nYou\'re right we are not the police. U know why? Because the police (at least the Wichitaw KS police) don\'t give a damn about him ripping us off and refuse to do anything about it. We should not be like them. We should care about our fellow collectors and try to do something about it.
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\nI really don\'t see your logic here Curt. You are basically enabling Robert Bohanon to continue doing this to people. You\'re right too few people do check the good/bad lists. So your solution is to say "Just check the lists."??? How is that a solution? U just said no one checks it so its not much of a help in a situation like this now is it?
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\nI\'m not saying to constantly advertise every bad trader but this is a special case. One that keeps coming back and ripping people off so we need a constant reminder. I\'d rather have people know about him than have them get that negative attitude towards trading AFTER being ripped off by him. U know what I mean?\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n you know what would help. putting bobman robert bohannon on the master good bad traders list
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\r\nthen the name will be seen and ring bells
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\r\nand saying im enabling him is laughable. ask nick about how often i alert the yojoe site to bobmans crap
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\r\nthe fact of the matter is your asking for the yojoe admin and mod staff to police a list that no one can agree on.
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\r\nyour asking them to babysit traders and buyers/sellers when they have a hard enough time maintaining the content here.
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\r\nit is not the yojoe staffs job to monitor trades/deals. it is the responsibility of the people involved in that activity to watch out for their own safety.
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\r\ni think bobman is scum of the lowest order but that doesnt change the fact that you are wanting something that just wont happen. unless the yojoe staff change their own minds about this topic.
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\r\na stickied list is a good idea. i like it myself. i have been doing this for 7 years now and can add a lot of names to it lol.
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\r\nmaybe we can do a poll for the stickied list? if we get a vast majority to ok the list and then can agree on guidelines maybe we can make it happen.\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n Oh and another thing Curt, when I got ripped off by him the good/bad trader section wasn\'t very helpful because he had positive feedback. What he did was created a new name and the completed a few trades so that he had positive feedback and then all of a sudden turned around and ripped a bunch of us at once. So I did check his feedback. I took your advice and got ripped off. Now had a sticky been up w/his real name I would have known who I was really dealing with when I addressed his package.
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\nSince he changes names the good/bad trader list is pretty ineffective. You go on there scroll down to whatever name he is now using and there probably won\'t be bad feedback. There will either be good feedback or no feedback. He is banned once bad feedback starts showing up.\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n Now I am confused...you were arguing against a stickied list now you are saying that one is a good idea?
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\r\nThe big problem is when you make a trade w/someone and look up their feedback you don\'t see their real name on that list what you see is their forum name. By the time you get the person\'s real name most people are already addressing their envelopes or writing out their MO\'s. Hardly anyone I think would go back and look up the name of the real person by that time.
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\r\nIf we put his name on the master list I doubt many will actually see it with all the hundreds of other traders on it. People will just scan looking for whoever they are about to trade with and never really notice Robert Bohanon (unless it is made to stand out somehow).
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\r\nBut if we had a sticky at the top w/his name people would probably remember seeing it and double check and would spare them from dealing with the POS.
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\r\nI understand there\'s a good chance it won\'t happen. If the mods don\'t want it then its out but I think it should be there and I would venture to say quite a few others share my views.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n kicking attitude at me isnt helping.
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\r\nim telling you how things work here. your asking for a severe rule change. ive given you ideas on how to change them.
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\r\nkeep treating me like im the bad guy bud. im trying to help and your being a bit rude now.
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\r\nits not my fault you got screwed by bobman. its not yojoes fault either. you sent a lot of money to a guy with 4 posts on here. that should have been red flag number 1.
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\r\nyou want some changes made to the system here then follow some steps i laid out. dont post him is duck sausade or crimguardforce but post his bad deals on the master list as bobman or robert bohhanon.
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\r\nwant a stickied list? youll need a majority vote on a poll and some serious campaiging and planning before the mods will aloow it.
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\r\ndont crawl on my case for spelling things out.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n no i wast arguing against it. i was telling you it wont happen. unless the members here do some serious campaigning for it\r\n \r\n

[nevermore]

\r\n \r\n Curt I\'m not trying to treat you like the bad guy...sorry if you are taking it like that.
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\r\nWhat I am saying is what you are suggesting just isn\'t working and it is going to continue not working. So something else should be tried.
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\r\nYou kept saying to check the list so I am trying to explain to you why the lists didn\'t work for me and why others will have difficulty when it comes to Robert Bohanon and the lists.
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\r\nI seem to have misunderstood your position. I thought when you said "We\'re not the police here" that you were saying we shouldn\'t have a sticky because we aren\'t the police.
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\r\nLike I said it is up to the mods, I\'m stating my position on it. If others agree with me then cool. If not then when a mod comes in and says "No" then its over. I\'ll just go back to trading and watch out for Robert Bohanon and leave everyone to fend for themselves.
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\r\nAnd just for the record I didn\'t send a lot of $ to him. I sent like $5 and some figs.\r\n \r\n

[dfunk7]

\r\n \r\n welcome to the ive been screwed by bobman club, its a party!!!!\r\n \r\n

[badkarma66419]

\r\n \r\n Try contacting the Kansas Atorney General\'s office. Sounds like a clear case of net fraud and he should be prosecuted.\r\n \r\n

[GENERAL HAWK 7]

\r\n \r\n He is STILL trying to do the deal with me. (Selling me 5 25th anni Cobra Troopers)
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\nHere is the email address from which he sent me the pictures of the Troopers:
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\nPepesdad2006@aol.com
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\nI just figured that MAY be helpful. I dont know. But there it is.\r\n \r\n

[crimguardforce]

\r\n \r\n Do any of you idiots even have anything on me? Last time you all go going on a 3 page thread with NO ONE being ripped off.
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\nCurt your just as bad, It\'s been proven several times, AND you haven\'t even caught half of what I do so don\'t pat yourself on the back so quick.\r\n \r\n

[BIGFAN]

\r\n \r\n say what you want bob
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\r\ni remember that email you sent me not long ago...a true measure of your character right there pal\r\n \r\n

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I just got a PM from this guy. He basically said that this is just his dummy account and that he doesn't mind screwing people with this account. His real name is Rob Bowhanon AKA spiritob1 from Andover Kansas (Just outside Wichita). He says he still has his main E-Bay account. Does anyone know what his other account is? And when he gets kicked off for one, will he be suspended from all his accounts? I think when one board member got kicked off, they suspended multiple accounts of his.
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