Do not deal with smalljoes.com ever, he ripped me off

[NotCool]

\r\n \r\n I am a regular shopper at Smalljoes.com for everything from toys to comics. In all my years and multiple purchases every year...not a single issue. In all my experiences from dozens of sites there are few I would shop at and even fewer I would bring repeat business too. Smalljoes.com is one I have learned to trust!
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\r\nYour language was a little strong for Corey and the site we all frequent.
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\r\nYou sold and entire collection from age 4 for just $1400?
\r\nI may have paid more, but I didn\'t get contacted...NotCool.\r\n \r\n

[just_joes_by_mike]

\r\n \r\n Pay no attention to "notcool". None of his response was valid to the issue you are bringing up!!
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\nI don\'t think your beef really has anything to do with us regular joe collectors or the smalljoes.com site. I don\'t know if you tried to sell your collection here? then I do understand wanting to post this. What you need to do is proceed to small claims court for this one. It sounds like you have a legitimate verbal contract for the sale of your items. He has not paid you the full amount, so let a court of law decide. If everything is as you claim it to be, should be a slam dunk for you. GL.\r\n \r\n

[cageyJG]

\r\n \r\n Renegade, three months?! Man, so sorry you got snookered like this. It appears what you\'re saying is that even though FedEx overcharged shipping by ~$400, Corey stated he would pay you $1400 and he arbitrarily decided to reduce it to suit him, because he felt he was wronged. Do I understand correctly?
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\r\nYou are a valued member of our site who has repeatedly try to communicate with this questionable buyer. At this point, I would take it up with the Missouri AG and solicit their advice in seeking redress/damages. Smalljoes does business via this website with a documented history of bad business and ignoring good faith communication; this is absolutely an appropriate place to post. If Mr. smalljoes is so immaculate, surely it wouldn\'t be a big deal for him to descend from his sky palace and address your situation.
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\r\nGood luck, Renegade.\r\n \r\n

[Corey Stinson]

\r\n \r\n Ah, yes, well there are always two sides two every story, aren\'t there?
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\nYes, I did agree to buy his collection, yes I have received it, and yes this individual will be paid in full eventually. To understand why he has not yet been paid in full you must understand the multiple missteps and failures to follow instructions that he has taken throughout the process.
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\nThe first occurred after we agreed to the transaction and shipping details. He spent nearly two weeks dickering back and forth with me over actually getting the product shipped (I won\'t get into the details). As a result, by the time he finally got it shipped, it ended up being sent to my old warehouse address and I was subsequently right in the middle of a major warehouse move. I had to stop everything I was doing and arrange for the collection to get redirected to the correct (new) address. [At my expense I might add.]
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\nBecause of his shipping delays, I opted not to process his collection for about two weeks while I focused on completing my warehouse move and shipping all of my customers\' orders which had been slowly backing up during the downtime. Mr. Hawbolte came unglued, safe to say he did not agree with my priorities at this time and sent me a lengthy series of highly insulting messages accusing me of theft, threatening me with police arrest (laughable), BBB reports, etc. etc. Let us say that this did not motivate me to prioritize Mr. Hawbolte over my other customers.
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\nIt was actually a stroke of luck that I delayed processing the collection and paying him, because in so doing I discovered that he had shipped the entire collection by the FedEx method that I SPECIFICALLY INSTRUCTED HIM IN WRITING ***NOT*** TO USE, even explaining why. I thus ended up with over $800 in additional shipping charges applied to my FedEx account. I held Mr. Hawbolte responsible for this error and deducted the difference from his payout, mailed him the check, which he has subsequently received.
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\nIn the meantime Mr. Hawbolte has successfully managed to blame the situation on FedEx and gotten them to agree to issue a partial refund on the shipping charges. While I am quite satisfied that the problem was created by Mr. Hawbolte, if he can wheedle FedEx for the difference that is fine with me.
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\nI have explained to Mr. Hawbolte that when I receive the refund from FedEx, and am satified that is is permanent (per *my* FedEx account rep), I will issue his remaining funds. I will freely admit that I am in no hurry to complete this process as a result of the ridiculous and paranoid threats that Mr. Hawbolte has sent me on nearly a daily basis, all over issues that he created, threats which I am in fact now ignoring completely.
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\nI should probably mention that even had Mr. Hawbolte shipped the collection with FedEx Ground as originally agreed, I still incured several hundred dollars in excessive shipping charges due to his foolish packing job - for example, shipping one box with only two figures in it. The cost of shipping on that box alone exceeded by a factor of 10 the value of the items inside. I blame this situation on myself and in the future I will simply not offer to pay any shipping charges on any international collection that I buy. I figure if the seller is responsible for the charges, they may spend some additional effort insuring that they are shipping in a cost-effective manner.
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\nI fully expect Mr. Hawbolte to come back and deny many of the things I\'ve stated herein. I have no intention of further debating them. Let the internet masses judge the situation as they will.\r\n \r\n

[Corey Stinson]

\r\n \r\n P.S. caseyJG, could it possibly be more obvious that you have some sort of axe to grind? \r\n \r\n

[Grunt]

\r\n \r\n Gents,
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\nThis issue is clearly between Renegade and Corey/smalljoes.com. Everyone else needs to stay out of it.\r\n \r\n

[Renegade]

\r\n \r\n notcool i am VERY glad that you have had good luck with him as i am sure that many many others have had great luck with him as well.
\r\nBUT i am simply sharing my experience with him on a simple transaction that did not go well and i have the proof in my emails to prove it.
\r\ni did not make this post to start any sort of a debate, i am just simply letting the public know that i have a situation here and i have to get the police and possibly legal action against him and i do not want to do that but i will if it comes to that.
\r\nif you were in my position from day 1 with him on this deal you would understand.
\r\nthanks and have a great christmas.\r\n \r\n

[bluebikerboy1]

\r\n \r\n unrelated and mods I appologize.....
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\r\nthat said how did you get fed ex to lower there rates after the item was shipped and recieved? especially by half?
\r\nDid you take it to a independant shipping office and they jacked the rates up or was it the local fed ex kinkos deal?
\r\nIve never gotten them to discount at all let alone half.....
\r\nin anycase i am sure corey will make this right and wish you the best......\r\n \r\n

[NotCool]

\r\n \r\n Renegade,
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\r\nI was not trying to debate you, rather show you that there is hope. A sound seller will work it out with you. Even here there have been those who have come up short on their deal and later it worked out for all parties:
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\r\nhttp://forums.yojoe.com/bad-traders-...n-success.html
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\r\nPay no attention to "just mike". None of his response will prove productive or financially beneficial for you. Small claims are not as simple or effective as you would hope. IF you file, what venue? The defendant could easily file a motion to change venue (forum non-convienience law) then you have to travel to him. Then what of the fees? In some counties it costs more to file a case with a local clerk than the amount you could collect. Can you collect your Attorneys fees? Only if there is specific "prevailing parties" language in your agreement. Law enforcement? If only they would be so responsive. Verbal agreement, at best argumentative. I have tried that and lost.
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\r\nYour best effort would be to try and reason with him. Open a dialog that is not threatening or public. There is much more opportunity for resolution without the posts. With any luck this thread will catch his attention and prove to be a means to "open the door" towards a resolution.
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\r\nAs far as my “response to your issue" not being valid. It was my experience, many positive ones, that validates not all of us regular joe collectors have had the same experience as yours. With luck, you too will see some sort of positive outcome.
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\r\nA positive outcome however will not come when other members fan the flames and cry "court of law/slam dunk"
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\r\nLet’s not take the cheap shots its NotCool.\r\n \r\n

[just_joes_by_mike]

\r\n \r\n Wow, did you read your post NotCool? Your recent eloquent explanation of your first post is more of a "what I really meant to say" instead of what it plainly says. This guy is not dealing with a $10 trade gone bad, he is out hundreds of dollars. I might not have recommended the correct legal route for him to take, as I am not an attorney. He has already consulted one and sounds like he\'s on the right path. GL to him.\r\n \r\n

[NotCool]

\r\n \r\n Just mike,
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\r\nThank you for the "eloquent" comment.
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\r\nPM sent your way.
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\r\nBeing unresponsive privately when you are considerably vocal publically is NotCool.\r\n \r\n

[Renegade]

\r\n \r\n hello everyone
\r\ntoday is a glorious day,
\r\ncorey and i have come to an agreement between us that will remain between us and we are both happy with it. and i recieved it yesterday in the mail and i am very happy with it.
\r\nso to coreys praise HE DID COME THROUGH IN THE END AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE FINAL OUTCOME.
\r\nwe had our differences throughout but that is now in the past and i WILL DEAL WITH HIM AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
\r\ni will let people see this message that i wrote so people know he came through and then i will get it removed so there is no misunderstandings.\r\n \r\n

[theguru1974]

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hello everyone
\r\ntoday is a glorious day,
\r\ncorey and i have come to an agreement between us that will remain between us and we are both happy with it. and i recieved it yesterday in the mail and i am very happy with it.
\r\nso to coreys praise HE DID COME THROUGH IN THE END AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE FINAL OUTCOME.
\r\nwe had our differences throughout but that is now in the past and i WILL DEAL WITH HIM AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
\r\ni will let people see this message that i wrote so people know he came through and then i will get it removed so there is no misunderstandings.

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Ok it\'s been 9 years, maybe it\'s time to remove this thread completely like you promised? LOL.\r\n \r\n

[Firefly74]

\r\n \r\n Hi
\nThe November 24th 2022 i purschased to SMALLJOES 2x50 stands= 100 stands, i receveid only 50 stands i sent emails to him, he never replied to me and i think he ripped me off too.
\nSorry for links but to add pics it doesn\'t work
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\nhttps://www.cjoint.com/c/LLgqUwhLKzx
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\nhttps://www.cjoint.com/c/LLgqWjUQ7ax
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\nhttps://www.cjoint.com/c/LLgqZJ8NIAx
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\nI hope someone can help me\r\n \r\n

[Corey Stinson]

P.S. caseyJG, could it possibly be more obvious that you have some sort of axe to grind?